Not sure it's a good idea to try them if your wallet is not ready to lose some weightNerdMcBoon wrote:I usually don't demo stuff that I can't afford (I don't demo many plugins)
Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released
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- KVRAF
- 4370 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
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- KVRAF
- 6279 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Here's an Adaptiverb being excited by a harpsichord. there is a lot of processing and other reverbs layered with it.
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- KVRAF
- 6502 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
indeed, it seems to stop feeding the processor until the pitch or chords becomes stable again,...very cleverly made !SCprogfan wrote:Well, for me it did some strange and very cool things that happened to fit right into the piece I was recording. I don't even know how to describe it, but it did not follow the pitch of the synth in the way that I was expecting. Whatever it was doing, it worked out very well. I have to say that this effect seems like it was ready-made especially for space music and soundscapes. It is exactly the kind of effect I have been wanting for those types of pieces.Krakatau wrote:- did you notice how it behaves, when you're performing pitch bend effects ?
for use of any western music, it is perfect, perhaps zynaptiq might consider also other types of (ethnic ?) scales in the future ?
- it has some chances to make sense for it sales, IMO, but i can be wrong...
- KVRian
- 1051 posts since 21 Apr, 2004
hmmm...
As soon as I try to insert the demo on a track it crashes both Logic X and Live 9 on my system. (OS 10.11.6)
Once, I was able to insert it on an audio track but as soon as I hit "play", Logic crashed.
I have tried uninstalling and re-installing the demo as well as disconnecting my external soundcard (Propellerhead Balance) and using only built-in I/O to no avail.
Must be something unique to my setup as I don't see anyone else reporting the problem. I have sent a support email to Zynaptiq with the full crash report but I thought I'd post the most relevant part here if anybody has any ideas for a quick fix
EDIT: Zynaptiq is aware of the issue and has already sent me an Audio Unit build that works correctly
As soon as I try to insert the demo on a track it crashes both Logic X and Live 9 on my system. (OS 10.11.6)
Once, I was able to insert it on an audio track but as soon as I hit "play", Logic crashed.
I have tried uninstalling and re-installing the demo as well as disconnecting my external soundcard (Propellerhead Balance) and using only built-in I/O to no avail.
Must be something unique to my setup as I don't see anyone else reporting the problem. I have sent a support email to Zynaptiq with the full crash report but I thought I'd post the most relevant part here if anybody has any ideas for a quick fix
EDIT: Zynaptiq is aware of the issue and has already sent me an Audio Unit build that works correctly
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- KVRian
- 605 posts since 14 Mar, 2002
To be honest, I somehow did not like PMs sound back then, but yes, processing AVs wet with PM might change my mind...zynaptiq wrote:You know, there's this other product called PITCHMAP that lets you enforce MIDI-played pitch onto an audio stream...TabSel wrote:Will the HCF Keyboard tracking be playable by MIDI, so that you could actually "play" the reverb tail?![]()
Petri Alanko did that a whole lot for his Quantum Break soundtrack IIRC.
On a more serious note: we thought about that, but feel that the CPU load is already pretty much at the max of the scale, as is the number of functions (much more and it will start eating my brain in addition to my CPU) – though I do admit that would be very cool so who knows.
What I feel would be even more useful though is a sidechain input that you can use as HCF tracking source – so that the ADAPTIVERB wet path would conform to the sidechain's tonality rather than the input's.
More snapshots would probably not be a problem though. Maybe 8?
Concerning the side chain I simply have to say: bring it on!
But again: I don't see much of an overfunctionality issue with MIDI input for HCF. The CPU cycles are used already, too, it's just a dynamic setting of the keys by MIDI, instead of snapshots...
- KVRAF
- 3361 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Sounds great but the CPU usage on my quad i7 mbp makes it impractical to use with my usual workflow (even with a raised buffer). I thought DIVA was the highest CPU plug on my system. Adaptiverb makes it look like Hive.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
I agree but Kaleidoscope (even much improved) beats them all for cpu usagemasterhiggins wrote:Sounds great but the CPU usage on my quad i7 mbp makes it impractical to use with my usual workflow (even with a raised buffer). I thought DIVA was the highest CPU plug on my system. Adaptiverb makes it look like Hive.
Adaptiverb is really a special thing and i thought with Aether and B2 there is no reverb which will comes even close.
Damn, Adaptiverb offers something new here i really love for ambient stuff.
Do i need another reverb....eh no...but Adaptiverb seems more than a reverb
I get some really awesome results with Sculpture's morphing sounds trough a pitched shift Replika XT goes into Adaptiverb....there are seldom moments where i think WTF....goosebumps sound! Very nice!!
- KVRAF
- 6502 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
the thing to notice is that adaptiverb do not intend to emulate any realistic reverberations,Cinebient wrote:I agree but Kaleidoscope (even much improved) beats them all for cpu usagemasterhiggins wrote:Sounds great but the CPU usage on my quad i7 mbp makes it impractical to use with my usual workflow (even with a raised buffer). I thought DIVA was the highest CPU plug on my system. Adaptiverb makes it look like Hive.
Adaptiverb is really a special thing and i thought with Aether and B2 there is no reverb which will comes even close.
Damn, Adaptiverb offers something new here i really love for ambient stuff.
Do i need another reverb....eh no...but Adaptiverb seems more than a reverb
I get some really awesome results with Sculpture's morphing sounds trough a pitched shift Replika XT goes into Adaptiverb....there are seldom moments where i think WTF....goosebumps sound! Very nice!!
you may figure it out, though it doesn't use a bank of delay lines as does kaleidoscope, as a sophisticated bank of resonators accurate enough for psychoacoustic reasons (timbral transparency, rendening of formant frequencies) to simulate a reverberation
this while bandwidth of fundamental frequencies could be locked to a scale or another, these together has a price in CPU weight, but gives stunning and innovative possibilities both for western composers/arrangers and sound engineers !
(...or i beg the dev to correct me if i'm talking nonsense, because this pushes me to the limits of my analytical intelligence for the profane that i am !!!)
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- KVRian
- 847 posts since 20 May, 2010
I have the same problem on both (presonus studio one 2) and (image-line fl studio 10).zynaptiq wrote:What host is that BTW, and which version? I'm assuming you're on Win XP?
And i am still on windows xp.
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 10 Oct, 2011
1 simple Guitartrack into an EQ into some light compression into Adaptiverb and some light compression after that.
Slightly modified Adaptiverb Preset No.002/045 Picked AcGuitar Dreamy Air
http://soundcloud.com/fm42/guitverb
Slightly modified Adaptiverb Preset No.002/045 Picked AcGuitar Dreamy Air
http://soundcloud.com/fm42/guitverb
- KVRAF
- 6502 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
As i, for one, can notice, Adaptiverb somehow fails here to render the timbre of such a bright instrument accuratelyplexuss wrote:Here's an Adaptiverb being excited by a harpsichord. there is a lot of processing and other reverbs layered with it.
https://soundcloud.com/plexus-productio ... hord-thing
I easily assume though that instrument with less harmonic content, like electric pianos for instance, might blend way more easily on that respect...
would be interesting to hear how it behaves with inharmonic instruments, most percussions for instance !
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
A simple line played by a Chromaphone sound and a slow pad melody (ArcSyn) processed by the same instance of Zynaptiq Adaptiverb in Hold-mode (using a sonic footprint of one of my Zebra sounds as spectral filter), the dry/wet slider is set to 90 %, about 2 minutes into the track HCF Weigthing is slowly being automated towards the bright side and back. It's interesting to hear how the two sounds are fighting inside the plugin and how dominant the pad sound becomes (because it's sustained and the spectral re-synthesis loves sustained sounds) although it was about -15 dB softer than the bell sound. I also used a dynamic EQ post Adaptiverb to tame some of the resonances.
https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... scifi-cave
https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... scifi-cave
- KVRAF
- 6502 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
indeed as you noticed...nice job BTW musically and didactically, as usual !Sampleconstruct wrote:A simple line played by a Chromaphone sound and a slow pad melody (ArcSyn) processed by the same instance of Zynaptiq Adaptiverb in Hold-mode (using a sonic footprint of one of my Zebra sounds as spectral filter), the dry/wet slider is set to 90 %, about 2 minutes into the track HCF Weigthing is slowly being automated towards the bright side and back. It's interesting to hear how the two sounds are fighting inside the plugin and how dominant the pad sound becomes (because it's sustained and the spectral re-synthesis loves sustained sounds) although it was about -15 dB softer than the bell sound. I also used a dynamic EQ post Adaptiverb to tame some of the resonances.
https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... scifi-cave
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
- KVRAF
- 6502 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
just making it obvious to read on a dark blue ground...Sampleconstruct wrote:But why yellow, instant eye cancer...

