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dayjob wrote:
on the safe side until you travel with it in your laptop and break it off.. or lose it or it gets stolen etc.
None of which are a fault of the the usb stick or the software

(Not that im saying ilok is good, its not)

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fluffy_little_something wrote:Maybe you should have deactivated your UVI licenses before installing the AIR stuff. Since AIR plugins contain iLok, I assume they install iLok automatically, which might replace your existing copy of iLok. Just a guess...
Guessing is allowed, but if the included PACE installer in a software plug is not smart enough to sniff that newer versions of PACE is already installed on a computer, then I hope PACE have their support department loaded.

Being able to detect newer version of PACE already installed, is a minimum requirement that I trust PACE has got covered.
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AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
on the safe side until you travel with it in your laptop and break it off.. or lose it or it gets stolen etc.
None of which are a fault of the the usb stick or the software

(Not that im saying ilok is good, its not)
sort of like saying "it's not the egg's fault you dropped it"

and, yes of course.. but it's a risk for some people.. like me. ;) which is all i was saying. what's the point of having a fast laptop for making music when i travel if i can't use the software i paid for because i broke the dongle that is the copy protection scheme? might as well just not bring it along at all.

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Some vendors, like AVID, got a policy about that

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_U ... Lok-Policy

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fluffy_little_something wrote: Maybe you should have deactivated your UVI licenses before installing the AIR stuff.
This of course would have solved the problem and perhaps I should have thought of it. I haven't had any issues with adding licenses to my soft ilok, so it just wasn't on my mind.

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dayjob wrote:
AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
on the safe side until you travel with it in your laptop and break it off.. or lose it or it gets stolen etc.
None of which are a fault of the the usb stick or the software

(Not that im saying ilok is good, its not)
sort of like saying "it's not the egg's fault you dropped it"

and, yes of course.. but it's a risk for some people.. like me. ;) which is all i was saying. what's the point of having a fast laptop for making music when i travel if i can't use the software i paid for because i broke the dongle that is the copy protection scheme? might as well just not bring it along at all.
Or you could just pull the stick out and pop it in your pocket. If its valuable and important, you look after it. :wink:

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Numanoid wrote:Some vendors, like AVID, got a policy about that

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_U ... Lok-Policy
The problem is that a paying user should never ever deal with that sh1t. Never. Absolutely. CP, whatever form it is, should just not get in the way of using paid software. End of Story.

And the price they sell those flimsy 1$ usb sticks is beyond joke.
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robotmonkey wrote:And the price they sell those flimsy 1$ usb sticks is beyond joke.
Agree with you on that, the sticks are not built like tanks (more like porcelain).

I have kept mine inhouse for the most part, but still the cap broke :(

Too bad that more vendors haven't thought about replicating Waves plan, where a regular USB stick can be used as "iLok"

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AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
on the safe side until you travel with it in your laptop and break it off.. or lose it or it gets stolen etc.
None of which are a fault of the the usb stick or the software

(Not that im saying ilok is good, its not)
sort of like saying "it's not the egg's fault you dropped it"

and, yes of course.. but it's a risk for some people.. like me. ;) which is all i was saying. what's the point of having a fast laptop for making music when i travel if i can't use the software i paid for because i broke the dongle that is the copy protection scheme? might as well just not bring it along at all.
Or you could just pull the stick out and pop it in your pocket. If its valuable and important, you look after it. :wink:
it doesn't work if it's in my pocket.. which may or may not have a hole in it btw.. it only works if it's plugged into the USB port where it might get snapped off while i'm sitting on a couch with laptop in my lap while working on a tune.

iLok dongle is inconvenient for me. it may work fine for you in all situations.. that's great.. for you. but you should maybe accept the idea that it doesn't really work for everyone.. .so the software authorization get's it done.. so long as the developers and iLok can actually make it work the way intended and not have it create lot's of problems like the one in the OP of this thread.

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I think if i had to travel with a laptop i would deactive it from the dongle and activate it on laptop for the time beeing.
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.

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dayjob wrote:
AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
AnX wrote:
dayjob wrote:
on the safe side until you travel with it in your laptop and break it off.. or lose it or it gets stolen etc.
None of which are a fault of the the usb stick or the software

(Not that im saying ilok is good, its not)
sort of like saying "it's not the egg's fault you dropped it"

and, yes of course.. but it's a risk for some people.. like me. ;) which is all i was saying. what's the point of having a fast laptop for making music when i travel if i can't use the software i paid for because i broke the dongle that is the copy protection scheme? might as well just not bring it along at all.
Or you could just pull the stick out and pop it in your pocket. If its valuable and important, you look after it. :wink:
it doesn't work if it's in my pocket.. which may or may not have a hole in it btw.. it only works if it's plugged into the USB port where it might get snapped off while i'm sitting on a couch with laptop in my lap while working on a tune.

iLok dongle is inconvenient for me. it may work fine for you in all situations.. that's great.. for you. but you should maybe accept the idea that it doesn't really work for everyone.. .so the software authorization get's it done.. so long as the developers and iLok can actually make it work the way intended and not have it create lot's of problems like the one in the OP of this thread.
I dont use them. They suck. My point is, all the faults you have mentioned are not faults with the device itself.

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SAW75 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote: Maybe you should have deactivated your UVI licenses before installing the AIR stuff.
This of course would have solved the problem and perhaps I should have thought of it. I haven't had any issues with adding licenses to my soft ilok, so it just wasn't on my mind.
Any luck since then? Sucks to lose access to so much stuff for no good reason.

Story like this stops me in the track every single time I thought I'd give the soft activation a go :(

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Um, Solved... reinstalled Windows 10, reinstalled ilok manager. All my licenses came up on one machine. All the UVI instruments that were missing previously were already activated. Activated Air Instruments and now I am good to go.

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SAW75 wrote:Um, Solved... reinstalled Windows 10, reinstalled ilok manager. All my licenses came up on one machine. All the UVI instruments that were missing previously were already activated. Activated Air Instruments and now I am good to go.
that sounds fun.

glad you got it sorted. you should send iLok or whoever.. a bill for your time.

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Guys, if you have a laptop and use a dongle, pleas buy something like this: http://www.angledcables.com/usb_cables_ ... ed_72.html

It largely mitigates issues with dongles 'breaking off' or getting lost.

I have a piece of velcro on the back of my laptop and on a usb-hub that I keep my dongles on. It easily attaches there and plugs in with a very slim right-angle usb extension. Basically fool-proof.

Even if you don't use a laptop and are worried about 'breaking it off', or have trouble reaching around to get to your dongle... use a USB extension.

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