I think what he ment was that the ting he is taking away from this thread is the new knowladge of the EVM pack. Saying (I think) that he hadnt hear of it till this thread and likes itsickle666 wrote:Say what? I may be mistaking you, but did you just suggest you want a Muse because EVM's stuff is on it?gnu23 wrote: So the big takeaway for me here is the EVM Synthpack...I hadn't heard these before, and while not all of them have MP3 demos, what I did hear was pretty good - any comments/experience on EVM?
That's like a $30 to $50 SE plug pack, man..I own the EVM stuff & they're all great & all, but that's hardly a selling point for this thing, is it?
Rob, same here, it's going in the guitar rack if it's going anwhere..since we live on two different blocks it's a beautiful thing as I'd have to take you out
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That'sRobot Randolph wrote:All I am saying is some people are quite unhappy with Muse... money, company etc... I dont even think Im supposed to know what I do heh.db wrote:How so? We need details, man!Robot Randolph wrote:I dont think so.... Ive already met a few (4) developers not happy with muse at all...Kriminal wrote:Im guessing an empty version wont happen. They pay companies for Receptor converted versions, so they have to sell them as a package. Is that right?
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So you're saying that they use the Linux software sequencer named Muse along with Wine?Robot Randolph wrote: The linux Muse host is the same thing I beleive.
Warning! Warning! The lawyers are circling!Im really wondering how they dealt with all the licenses that potential could be broken right now. Im not very good with license stuff, but it sure as hell seems like a few are broken.
<cough! cough!>
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there was a thread here a few weeks ago where Ben flat out eliminated any connection between the Linux Muse & the Muse Reasearch companies..
But it does strike me as very, very odd that there are TWO Muse 'things' running BOTH on linnux..
Very odd..

But it does strike me as very, very odd that there are TWO Muse 'things' running BOTH on linnux..
Very odd..

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Im 99% sure the linux sequencer Muse is made by Muse Research. I could be veyr wrong though.... It would be a huge coincidence.db wrote:So you're saying that they use the Linux software sequencer named Muse along with Wine?Robot Randolph wrote: The linux Muse host is the same thing I beleive.![]()
<cough! cough!>Im really wondering how they dealt with all the licenses that potential could be broken right now. Im not very good with license stuff, but it sure as hell seems like a few are broken.
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Ben | KvR wrote:And Muse Research was formed in March 2002, but that's irrelevant... I don't think Muse Research see this as a problem (AFAIK anyway).jens wrote:if you are asking because of copyright issues:Squids wrote:WOW!Ben | KvR wrote:It's nothing to do with Muse Research.Squids wrote:Is this MusE Research (who owns KVR btw)? This is seems oddly coincidental that the Receptor also runs on Linux and opens Windows VST plug-ins. Ben? Anyone know?
What do you think of this? Or can you not really say?
This sequencer (and its name) is pretty old (september 2002) so if anyone owns the name it's them
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One formed right after the other, in the same year, working on the same technology, with the same name.sickle666 wrote:Ben | KvR wrote:And Muse Research was formed in March 2002, but that's irrelevant... I don't think Muse Research see this as a problem (AFAIK anyway).jens wrote:if you are asking because of copyright issues:Squids wrote:WOW!Ben | KvR wrote:It's nothing to do with Muse Research.Squids wrote:Is this MusE Research (who owns KVR btw)? This is seems oddly coincidental that the Receptor also runs on Linux and opens Windows VST plug-ins. Ben? Anyone know?
What do you think of this? Or can you not really say?
This sequencer (and its name) is pretty old (september 2002) so if anyone owns the name it's them
very fishy, but I guess we can only go by what ben says.
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Hmm...missed that thread. If you go to:sickle666 wrote:there was a thread here a few weeks ago where Ben flat out eliminated any connection between the Linux Muse & the Muse Reasearch companies..
But it does strike me as very, very odd that there are TWO Muse 'things' running BOTH on linnux..
Very odd..
http://lmuse.sourceforge.net/
You can see that the Linux software mid/audio sequencer here is GPL licensed. IOW, not proprietary at all. According to the credits, the principal developers are:
Frank Neumann
Robert Jonnson
Werner Schweer!
Joachim Schiele
Do any of them have anything to do with Muse the hardwarebox company?
Plus the software still looks rather rough and unfinished, which it is at MusE 0.7pre4!
As you say, very odd!
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I smell poop.
Don't really care though as long as it does it's job as advertised.
Something really needs to be done to make allowances for existing licenses for the provided synths.
Did i say that right?
If I own Albino or whatever else is 'free' in this machine, but I had to pay for a VST license already, I want that taken out of the cost, unless it comes in a new bullet-proof propriatary format that makes my coffee & never crashes is what I meant to say..
Don't really care though as long as it does it's job as advertised.
Something really needs to be done to make allowances for existing licenses for the provided synths.
Did i say that right?
If I own Albino or whatever else is 'free' in this machine, but I had to pay for a VST license already, I want that taken out of the cost, unless it comes in a new bullet-proof propriatary format that makes my coffee & never crashes is what I meant to say..
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Lol, db, how the hell do you explain THAT then?!db wrote:jens wrote:if you are asking because of copyright issues:Squids wrote:WOW!Ben | KvR wrote:It's nothing to do with Muse Research.Squids wrote:Is this MusE Research (who owns KVR btw)? This is seems oddly coincidental that the Receptor also runs on Linux and opens Windows VST plug-ins. Ben? Anyone know?
What do you think of this? Or can you not really say?
This sequencer (and its name) is pretty old (september 2002) so if anyone owns the name it's them
I believe the Greeks used the term 'Muse', what? Several centuries ago at least!
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Principles of Muse Research:db wrote:Hmm...missed that thread. If you go to:sickle666 wrote:there was a thread here a few weeks ago where Ben flat out eliminated any connection between the Linux Muse & the Muse Reasearch companies..
But it does strike me as very, very odd that there are TWO Muse 'things' running BOTH on linnux..
Very odd..
http://lmuse.sourceforge.net/
You can see that the Linux software mid/audio sequencer here is GPL licensed. IOW, not proprietary at all. According to the credits, the principal developers are:
Frank Neumann
Robert Jonnson
Werner Schweer!
Joachim Schiele
Do any of them have anything to do with Muse the hardwarebox company?![]()
Plus the software still looks rather rough and unfinished, which it is at MusE 0.7pre4!
As you say, very odd!
Chris Halaby
President & CEO
Michael Ost
Software Architect
Gregory Simpson
VP of Product Design & Usability
Dan Timis
DSP Architect
Bryan Lanser
VP of Business Development
Keith Borman
VP of Sales
Ben Turl
Web Manager
Don't see a connection, but damn is this thread keeping the boredom off my back here at work
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Lol, db, how the hell do you explain THAT then?!...believe the Greeks used the term 'Muse', what? Several centuries ago at least!
Explain what? Greeks, muse, or centuries?
Obviously the word has been in common use for centuries, but we're talking about two specific instances currently in use for similar purpose.
There are a lot of similarities between the two. But not being a conspiracy advocate, I think it's just co-incidence.
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That's what I was refering to. You say you missed it, but you posted in itdb wrote:Hmm...missed that thread.
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sickle666 wrote:
...damn is this thread keeping the boredom off my back here at work
I know what my excuse it: the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet. Damn!
