Is Reason 9 useful to have, if I use a Traditional DAW (Cubase, S1, ..etc) ?

[chk071]

Actually, the more DAW's i posess, the more it p***es me off, that the one can't do what the other can, so i try to keep the count low. E.g., when i work with Studio One, i wished it had the arps which Cubase ships with, and when i work with Cubase, i wished it had the ease of plugin windows handling, or fx handling, and chaining, or the control link thingie... i think it's really counterproductive to have too many DAW's, unless you really come to appreciate what the single DAW can do, and rather combine the capabilities. But then, every DAW is monster in terms of feature, so i really find it hard to believe that you wouldn't be able to create good music with any of them. In the end, it's rather about small things, and workflow. IMO.

TL;DR: Two is plenty for me.

[Muziksculp]

Which one is easier, and better at integrating HW-Synths to, Reason or FL Studio ?

[Mwanawanga]

Reason is incredibly useful if you have a traditional DAW. I also use Studio One 3. It lacks really good virtual instruments and sounds to me. I prefer using rewire with Reason. Once you get into the Reason shop and pick up things like Radical Keys which gives you Rhodes Mk1, the Wurlitzer and the Pianet-T sounds you are in a new world. Those instruments sound better than anything that comes stock with Studio One. Revival which is another Rack Extension is an incredible Organ sound which can be used really well with the new Lesly that comes with Studio One. Then there are free refills for Reason like Electo Mechanical which gives you a 70's style Clavinet that sounds like Stevie Wonder doing Superstition. Having Reason with Studio one makes me feel like I am on par with logic where you get all of this in one place. Logic has amazing instruments built in but seems more complex than Studio One.
I've been using Reason as a rewire since like version 2.5. I learned it before it was a full fledged DAW and it has always been a monster for instruments. So YES! Get reason and use it as a REWIRE with Studio One. The only case that would make me say skip Reason would be if you own Kontakt 5 or Komplete by Native instruments. If you have a tool with all those amazing instruments or the ability to keep adding additional new stuff, then you are all good. Just my opinion.

[Muziksculp]

Reason is incredibly useful if you have a traditional DAW. I also use Studio One 3. It lacks really good virtual instruments and sounds to me. I prefer using rewire with Reason. Once you get into the Reason shop and pick up things like Radical Keys which gives you Rhodes Mk1, the Wurlitzer and the Pianet-T sounds you are in a new world. Those instruments sound better than anything that comes stock with Studio One. Revival which is another Rack Extension is an incredible Organ sound which can be used really well with the new Lesly that comes with Studio One. Then there are free refills for Reason like Electo Mechanical which gives you a 70's style Clavinet that sounds like Stevie Wonder doing Superstition. Having Reason with Studio one makes me feel like I am on par with logic where you get all of this in one place. Logic has amazing instruments built in but seems more complex than Studio One.
I've been using Reason as a rewire since like version 2.5. I learned it before it was a full fledged DAW and it has always been a monster for instruments. So YES! Get reason and use it as a REWIRE with Studio One. The only case that would make me say skip Reason would be if you own Kontakt 5 or Komplete by Native instruments. If you have a tool with all those amazing instruments or the ability to keep adding additional new stuff, then you are all good. Just my opinion.

Hi Mwanawanga,

Thanks for your feedback.

Yes, I have tons of great sounding VST Instruments, Synths, Komplete 9 which includes Kontakt 5, and various HW Synths. So, I don't think Reason's Instruments will add anything very special to what I already have. I'm beginning to think that FL Studio 12 might be a better option for my needs, it will offer me a unique Pattern-Based DAW, which has a complementing workflow to my primary DAWs (Cubase and S1v3)., I also think that FL Studio 12 comes with some very good sounding Instruments, and Effects Plug-Ins. Plus, the Vectorial GUI looks awesome ! Also Reason as a standalone DAW does not support a video track if I need to score to video. FL Studio Does.

I have both FL Studio 12, and Reason 9, but I feel I will benefit more from using FL Studio 12, and put more time into learning it. I might visit Reason on and off, just for fun. but then I might like both, but from an analytical perspective, I think FL Studio 12 will be a better choice for me at this time.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[Lejurai]

Which one is easier, and better at integrating HW-Synths to, Reason or FL Studio ?

FLS is a real PITA when working with samples or hardware. Reason has propably the best recorded audio and sample handling.

[inkwarp]

Which one is easier, and better at integrating HW-Synths to, Reason or FL Studio ?

FLS is a real PITA when working with samples or hardware. Reason has propably the best recorded audio and sample handling.

this statement it baseless and entirely subjective. fl has a tonne of stuff for working with samples in a creative way .. slicex and edison are amazing tools. loads of options for chopping samples. as regards hardware well i don't have any problems in that area myself so again that's dependent on what hardware you are using. i use my midi controller without any hassles. you obviously have never seriously delved into FL. the amount of tools and options is amazing. added to the fact that FL can be used as a VST plugin as well as rewire capable.
if a program is causing you to be 'stressed' then don't use it.
every single piece if software takes an investment to learn, it's up to you to decide how much. people talk to much about the technical side of things and very rarely talks about actual music. if you want to make music you will find a way, ANY way to do it. it is certainly a truism that limitations can be a great aid to creativity. all of these apps. reaper, studio one, ableton live, cubase, even energy XT, tracktion, samplitude etc. etc.. they all have idiosyncrasies and workflows that are unique in some ways to themselves. i find fl is great for electronic music. if you were into recording real playing of instruments you probably won't like it as much as, say, sonar or studio one. sometimes you have to make a decision that is a little arbitrary to just dive into something and stick with it at least for a little while.
fl has a massive amount of learning material on the net, reason not so much. use google and youtube and rtfm's.

[Muziksculp]

Which one is easier, and better at integrating HW-Synths to, Reason or FL Studio ?

FLS is a real PITA when working with samples or hardware. Reason has propably the best recorded audio and sample handling.

this statement it baseless and entirely subjective. fl has a tonne of stuff for working with samples in a creative way .. slicex and edison are amazing tools. loads of options for chopping samples. as regards hardware well i don't have any problems in that area myself so again that's dependent on what hardware you are using. i use my midi controller without any hassles. you obviously have never seriously delved into FL. the amount of tools and options is amazing. added to the fact that FL can be used as a VST plugin as well as rewire capable.
if a program is causing you to be 'stressed' then don't use it.
every single piece if software takes an investment to learn, it's up to you to decide how much. people talk to much about the technical side of things and very rarely talks about actual music. if you want to make music you will find a way, ANY way to do it. it is certainly a truism that limitations can be a great aid to creativity. all of these apps. reaper, studio one, ableton live, cubase, even energy XT, tracktion, samplitude etc. etc.. they all have idiosyncrasies and workflows that are unique in some ways to themselves. i find fl is great for electronic music. if you were into recording real playing of instruments you probably won't like it as much as, say, sonar or studio one. sometimes you have to make a decision that is a little arbitrary to just dive into something and stick with it at least for a little while.
fl has a massive amount of learning material on the net, reason not so much. use google and youtube and rtfm's.

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I agree that for audio editing/recording of a performer Studio One & Cubase are better suited for this. I will go ahead with learning more about FL Studio 12.3, and Yes, there are lots of learning resources on the net, which is very helpful.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[Lejurai]

this statement it baseless and entirely subjective.

True. Though it's my EXPERIENCE. Like I mentioned earlier, I know my way around with pile of daws and considering my experience with everything, FLS is IMO the most horrible daw to work with audio/samples. BUT at the same time it's the fastest way from my brain to my speakers so.. Awesome daw by it's own rights.

And true, I don't know my way around it as well as someone who has FLS as his/hers main daw.

For recording audio, I'd recommend Reason or Reaper. Fast, easy, light, stable.

[Muziksculp]

this statement it baseless and entirely subjective.

True. Though it's my EXPERIENCE. Like I mentioned earlier, I know my way around with pile of daws and considering my experience with everything, FLS is IMO the most horrible daw to work with audio/samples. BUT at the same time it's the fastest way from my brain to my speakers so.. Awesome daw by it's own rights.

And true, I don't know my way around it as well as someone who has FLS as his/hers main daw.

For recording audio, I'd recommend Reason or Reaper. Fast, easy, light, stable.

Thanks for the feedback.

For Recording Audio, I use Cubase & Studio One Pro.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[jjpscott01]

I own lots of DAWS and they all offer different strengths like many have said here. Reason 9 to me is a songwriters dream. For whatever reason, I can get ten times more actual music-making done when im using Reason and version 9 added even more songwriting tools. FLS 12 is nice too and Studio One can be really fast if you have the pc to handle it.

[Muziksculp]

I own lots of DAWS and they all offer different strengths like many have said here. Reason 9 to me is a songwriters dream. For whatever reason, I can get ten times more actual music-making done when im using Reason and version 9 added even more songwriting tools. FLS 12 is nice too and Studio One can be really fast if you have the pc to handle it.

Thanks for your feedback.

[inkwarp]

this statement it baseless and entirely subjective.

True. Though it's my EXPERIENCE.

which is the definition of subjective : )

[MarlaPodolski]

i would agree that reason is more a 'playful' thing but it's left in the dust after using FL Studio, probs. the most fun you can have in a daw these days. between that and ableton i don't see a place for it anymore.
like the guy above i used it for years. i would do all my audio looping etc. in Acid studio.
AHhhh, them's were the days

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[Muziksculp]

Hi,

Another important point that is pushing me towards choosing to focus more on FL Studio 12, is that I already have invested into a large collection of VST Instruments, and Effects, so.. it would make more sense to use FL Studio 12, since it can use them. Reason 9 does not support VSTs , which means I would have to eventually invest into it's RE's, and Refills to get more variety of sounds and effects from Reason. Not that this is not doable, but I don't see the need to do this. Unless there is something very special that Reason will offer over what I can accomplish with VSTs. So far I'm not sure I need to venture into Reason.

The 'Pattern-Sequencing' environment of FL Studio 12 is really a complementing feature to Cubase and S1, so it would be a powerful tool to have, and it would make sense to invest some time learning it.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[EnGee]

Actually, the more DAW's i posess, the more it p***es me off, that the one can't do what the other can, so i try to keep the count low. E.g., when i work with Studio One, i wished it had the arps which Cubase ships with, and when i work with Cubase, i wished it had the ease of plugin windows handling, or fx handling, and chaining, or the control link thingie... i think it's really counterproductive to have too many DAW's, unless you really come to appreciate what the single DAW can do, and rather combine the capabilities. But then, every DAW is monster in terms of feature, so i really find it hard to believe that you wouldn't be able to create good music with any of them. In the end, it's rather about small things, and workflow. IMO.

TL;DR: Two is plenty for me.

+1
My opinion is the same.