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emef · Post by **emef** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:43 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:There is no internal preset manager? So I guess no presets can be loaded in Bitwig at all? Crazy.
I would have thought Bitwig would partially work as the browser does read fxp patches, the problem would be saving patches.

Bitwig loads the factory presets ok, anything i make in Modular i save as a bitwig preset

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:53 pm

No good though if you also use Modular in other hosts, which many people do.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:32 pm

aMUSEd wrote:No good though if you also use Modular in other hosts, which many people do.

Been watching this thread with interest, and though I have yet to get Modular, I would get around this (personally) by loading it into Cantabile (32/64-bit) which works as a Vst(i) (sub-host) in whatever DAW, as it does save both fxp, and fxb. It also saves whatever configuration of synths/effects you load into it, as a preset/project (etc), as does xlutop chainer (32-bit only) [2c]

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:51 pm

Shabdahbriah wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:No good though if you also use Modular in other hosts, which many people do.
Been watching this thread with interest, and though I have yet to get Modular, I would get around this (personally) by loading it into Cantabile (32/64-bit) which works as a Vst(i) (sub-host) in whatever DAW, as it does save both fxp, and fxb. It also saves whatever configuration of synths/effects you load into it, as a preset/project (etc), as does xlutop chainer (32-bit only) [2c]

There are workarounds, for sure. However, that's not what we are supposed to do on an instrument released in 2016. I bought it because I like modulars, this has proper emulations of real hardware modules, and I decided to take advantage of the special launching price. But if I knew that didn't have a proper patch management, I probably wouldn't.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:12 pm

fmr wrote:
Shabdahbriah wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:No good though if you also use Modular in other hosts, which many people do.
Been watching this thread with interest, and though I have yet to get Modular, I would get around this (personally) by loading it into Cantabile (32/64-bit) which works as a Vst(i) (sub-host) in whatever DAW, as it does save both fxp, and fxb. It also saves whatever configuration of synths/effects you load into it, as a preset/project (etc), as does xlutop chainer (32-bit only) [2c]
There are workarounds, for sure. However, that's not what we are supposes to do on an instrument released in 2016. I bought it because I like modulars, this has proper emulations of real hardware modules, and I decided to take advantage of the special launching price. But if I knew that didn't have a proper patch management, I probably wouldn't.

Oh, I agree with you completely. Though frequently related, poorly implemented browsers (pet peeve #1), and preset/patch management (pet peeve #2), are really inexcusable.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Plugin Discount got it on sale at just $75 at the moment.

Tempting, tempting...

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:45 pm

Numanoid wrote:Plugin Discount got it on sale at just $75 at the moment.

Tempting, tempting...

FWIW, that's our every day price when you use coupon code "Group". When it was on sale, it was $63 with that coupon code.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:48 pm

Uncle E wrote:
Numanoid wrote:Plugin Discount got it on sale at just $75 at the moment.

Tempting, tempting...
FWIW, that's our every day price when you use coupon code "Group". When it was on sale, it was $63 with that coupon code.

Too bad I missed that

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:15 am

Uncle E wrote:FWIW, that's our every day price when you use coupon code "Group". When it was on sale, it was $63 with that coupon code.

so bring back the sale!

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:17 am

kylie wrote:so bring back the sale!

It'll probably happen again in the next couple months.

Vintage73 · Post by **Vintage73** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:56 am

My demo ran out some time ago, and besides, I'm still a beginner with pure synthesis, but I was wondering if it's possible to create anything musical with this or if it's all fart noises and experimental patches.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:24 am

it's a bit of a learning curve.
I've been using synths for 20 years now, and dabbling in modular on and off…
but putting say - a dub chord patch together in Modular, for me, takes FOREVER.
Once they get a preset browser happening it will be a whole lot easier, i hope.

really, you can make ANY sound with it. It's possible, just a f**king mission!

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:37 am

Blue Phase Music wrote:My demo ran out some time ago, and besides, I'm still a beginner with pure synthesis, but I was wondering if it's possible to create anything musical with this or if it's all fart noises and experimental patches.

This is a very common question. The short answer is that yes, of course it is possible to create musical patches with a modular, just like any other musical instrument. You can patch up drum sounds, bass sounds, lead sounds, even polyphonic pads and keys if you have enough modules and time. But the real question is, why would you? Why expend all that time and effort just to make a basic synth sound which can be found elsewhere with much greater ease?

The whole point of a modular, IMHO, is to discover the sounds which your average monsynth or polysynth is not capable of. Branching out from the predetermined architecture and signal path and exploring the possibilities which you've never had access to before. Very often, this is going to lead you in directions which some might describe as "non-musical". I find these noisy journeys into sonic exploration to be the true nature and character of modular synths. That palette of sounds which is solely the domain of the modular is what defines it.

If you have no interest in that sort of thing, you can still use a modular in whatever musical way you want. The choice is yours. But I wouldn't recommend it. These things beg for experimentation, and the person who that appeals to will be one most likely to benefit from their modular.

Vintage73 · Post by **Vintage73** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:51 am

Thank you for your honest replies.

I think I'm better served with Reaktor 6, for now. Perhaps I'll come back to this at some other point when I'm more skilled.

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:07 am

Blue Phase Music wrote:Thank you for your honest replies.

I think I'm better served with Reaktor 6, for now. Perhaps I'll come back to this at some other point when I'm more skilled.

Yeah reaktor 6 is more powerfull , but the workflow is not very helpful in a middle of a session.

I v'e played with modular since the day it was released (i got everymodule available , intellijel,softube...).I 've recently understand that modular is made to don't made ' conventional synth sound ' and the workflow is just perfect for this usage.

The intellijel filter is just amazing....
Modular need some improvement like a real preset manager and a reset button on every sequencer modules...

Softube Modular