Remove noise from Satin.

[chilly7]

I tryed demo of Satin. And i have question. Why noise cannot be removed fully from tape. With hiss button fully down there is still noise. For example Slate Digital Virtual Tame Machine allows to remove noise. So i do not understand why Uhe does not allow that.

[Googly Smythe]

Design decision?
Because?
Something to do?

There is an auto-mute switch which defeats the noise when no signal is being received...

[Googly Smythe]

... Slate Digital Virtual Tame Machine...

For music that's just too exciting?

[3ee]

Noise is an integral part of the medium itself!
... with the auto-mute function, the noise is at about -150db ... is that really a problem?

[Googly Smythe]

I know what the op means - it's nice to have the benefits without the drawbacks.

[chilly7]

There is an auto-mute switch which defeats the noise when no signal is being received...

I am not intresting in it seens i want no noise level all the time.

[Googly Smythe]

I can only suggest you put in a FR with Urs...

[Ben.juodvalkis]

I find turning down the asperity knob does the trick

[stardustmedia]

There is an auto-mute switch which defeats the noise when no signal is being received...

I am not intresting in it seens i want no noise level all the time.

Why do you want that?

Just use the auto-switch. If you still can hear the noise in the mix, with the noise level and asperity all down, you must have an extraordinary loudspeaker and room setup and incredible ears. Because with "normal" settings the noise is at around -140dB.

So again, why are you so "manic" about the noise? Noise is not a bad thing.
Think about this: All analog records have much higher noise floor than -140dB. Or all completely digital productions that were mastered analog in the best mastering studios will have a higher noise floor. And finally I bet your loudspeaker setup (amp, cable, etc.) have a much higher noise floor, so it will mask Satin's noise floor anyway. Therefor: Can you really hear Satin's noise, or is it just in your mind

That's why I'd say your idea of Satin's noise seems a little manic to me. If you really cannot let go of this idea, well, then sell Satin and get Slate.

[Mushy Mushy]

In one of my first jobs we used to sack clients because we were too busy and they were too demanding.

Urs, just saying.

[EvilDragon]

Tape without noise is like a car without gasoline in it. Stupid.

[Viktor [TUC]]

You can also use the Compander to push noise down even further. With "uhx Type I" for example (set in encoder and decoder), noise is roughly another 30db lower than what you can achieve by turning down hiss and asperity. I'm getting -155db levels, and at that level, noise is a non-issue.

Viktor
u-he team

[#rob]

It's +3 dB for every additional instance of Satin with noise at -155dB.
So even with 20 tracks of Satin constantly outputting noise, you'll end up with -155 + (19 x 3) = -98 dBfs of noise.
Which is still below 2 dBfs below 16-bit noise floor.

Even if you should really be able to perceive that, in a well treated room with expensive speakers at an unhealthy volume, it would still not make its way onto a CD. Just saying...

[EvilDragon]

He's not doing CDs, he's just trolling you all.

[stardustmedia]

He's not doing CDs, he's just trolling you all.

had the same thought, but didn't dare to say it