KVR Audio

fluffy_little_something · Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:50 pm

aumordia wrote:
Urs wrote:
aumordia wrote:BTW, v3 is out now
Nope, still public beta, pretty much exactly since a year
You can download it and run it, but it's not "out" because it's technically a beta? That's pretty pharisaical.

Anyway, in light of this thread's trajectory, I find this old post from Ruben at LD to be doubly

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9#p6069479

Lennard (yes...Lennard) didn't even hear of Hive until the past few weeks. I can assure you he has respect for Urs, but he's in no way the great inspirer for Lennard to start programming again.

It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 3:52 pm

I happen to respect the hell out of Urs' balls to put himself out there. He always backs it up. People who push limits expect better and I appreciate it. He's been nothing but helpful and open about his products and his philosophies. Even if it's not what you want to hear. Sorry if you got your feelings hurt, I don't think anyone was trying to hurt your feelings.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:00 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Kumi_27 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:He doesn't need and want your "help", obviously. Nor will he care whether Sylenth1 cracks hurt your sales or not.
And You know this for sure, because... ? Man, speak for Yourself, will You?
Urs himself said it:
"That's why I offer help with copy protection to other developers for free, it's in my own interest if their stuff isn't cracked. But even though it was suggested to Lennar several times in forums, no-one has ever contacted us yet. I hope they do the right thing and invest into a good protection."

Indeed. And how is this paternising in any way? Isn't it obvious that Sylenth has been cracked in the past and thus there's a certain, hmm, danger(?) that it'll happen again? What's wrong with offering help in that respect?

I think only a person with very malicious intentions would see something bad in that. Which I think is a recurring feeling with your posts.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:02 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.

Cool, I didn't know that, even though it strikes me as very odd...

fluffy_little_something · Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:06 pm

Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.
Cool, I didn't know that, even though it strikes me as very odd...

Why? On the download page v3 is the only one offered. That would not be the case if it were a beta. There would also be a last robust version and maybe a warning regarding the beta.
I used to have it, there was nothing beta about it, nor in the mail I got from them.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:10 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.
Cool, I didn't know that, even though it strikes me as very odd...
Why? On the download page v3 is the only one offered. That would not be the case if it were a beta. There would also be a last robust version and maybe a warning regarding the beta.
I used to have it, there was nothing beta about it, nor in the mail I got from them.

It doesn't strike you as odd when a software company forgets (or decision its based on) to put a news item for a newly released piece of software on the news section of their homepage...?

fluffy_little_something · Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:21 pm

Urs wrote:Indeed. And how is this paternising in any way? Isn't it obvious that Sylenth has been cracked in the past and thus there's a certain, hmm, danger(?) that it'll happen again? What's wrong with offering help in that respect?

I think only a person with very malicious intentions would see something bad in that. Which I think is a recurring feeling with your posts.

Well, because you seem to think that he needs your help. But he surely doesn't.

Malicious intentions? What is malicious about pointing out that you come across as a bit arrogant to me? My intention is simply to defend LD, who obviously has better things to do than being on KVR.

Regarding Hive's gui, I don't think it's great at all, it looks cold and
not like hardware, more like from some Sci-Fi movie. Not to mention ergonomics.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:21 pm

Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.
Cool, I didn't know that, even though it strikes me as very odd...
Why? On the download page v3 is the only one offered. That would not be the case if it were a beta. There would also be a last robust version and maybe a warning regarding the beta.
I used to have it, there was nothing beta about it, nor in the mail I got from them.
It doesn't strike you as odd when a software company forgets (or decision its based on) to put a news item for a newly released piece of software on the news section of their homepage...?

I agree, they should update their site. The last news-flash was on September 9, 2015.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:24 pm

Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
Urs wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:It is not a beta, they just haven't updated their website in a while.
Cool, I didn't know that, even though it strikes me as very odd...
Why? On the download page v3 is the only one offered. That would not be the case if it were a beta. There would also be a last robust version and maybe a warning regarding the beta.
I used to have it, there was nothing beta about it, nor in the mail I got from them.
It doesn't strike you as odd when a software company forgets (or decision its based on) to put a news item for a newly released piece of software on the news section of their homepage...?

I don't think they care much about their site, the last news item seems to be the Mac version, the new Windows version is not even mentioned, although it came out after the Mac version.
I get the impression that LD is a much smaller project and not a real company like U-he.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:27 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Well, your whole paternalist way, offering "help'" to LD. I mean, who do you think you are? He doesn't need and want your "help", obviously. Nor will he care whether Sylenth1 cracks hurt your sales or not.

your name should be "nasty_little_something"... very little

aumordia · Post by **aumordia** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:28 pm

pdxindy wrote: your name should be "nasty_little_something"... very little

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:31 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Well, because you seem to think that he needs your help. But he surely doesn't.

Urs didn't say that. You are only projecting your own ugly bias onto his statement.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:34 pm

pdxindy wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
Well, because you seem to think that he needs your help. But he surely doesn't.
Urs didn't say that. You are only projecting your own ugly bias onto his statement.

I think you are wrong there.
And what bias? I bought both synths - and sold both...

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:40 pm

I don't know why, but I can't stop thinking of Sylenth1 as the "Kryptonite" for Urs!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:41 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Regarding Hive's gui, I don't think it's great at all, it looks cold and
not like hardware, more like from some Sci-Fi movie. Not to mention ergonomics.

My statement was directed towards Hive's user interface concept, not its visual representation. Had you read the whole thread since it was resurrected the other day you'd know that it was already established that I didn't find the looks that great either. But I guess you conveniently omitted that.

Now Hive is here, is it RIP Sylenth?