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sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:19 pm

The title says pretty much all.
I use MuLab for quite a while now. Always recorded in it without problems. I updated recently. I didn't want to update in the middle of a project, just to be safe, but I've tested the new MuLab at my job computer and liked the new look, so I said "what a heck" and updated it at home studio.
Big mistake!
Now I'm running late with a project, spent 2 hours trying to figure out why is not recording and in one hour I'll be off. Last chance to record will be tomorrow, then in about 2 weeks... maybe... I really need to record today.
HEEEELP

Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:05 pm

Hi sorohanro,
try to give a look at this topic viewtopic.php?f=79&t=466184
I hope that helps

also check this video

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:27 pm

Thanks for the links.
I think is very counter-intuitive now. This also means that all my old project where I had routings, mic selections...etc, now I'll have to start from scratch?

Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:46 pm

You are welcome ,
beyond the new features for audio recording the old functions are still there,
so if I'm not mistaken your M6 project should still work in M7 with the same setup.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:29 pm

Sorohanro, first of all please try recording a bit of audio in a new M7 project. Does that work fine?

If yes, then is the issue especially about opening existing M6 audio recording projects?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:04 pm

Another question: You say you're in the middle of an important project. So why don't you simply continue in M6 atm? As you know you can have different MuLab versions at the same time on your system, no problem, they're simply installed in different folders. If necessary you can redownload M6 from
http://www.mutools.com/mulab/legacy-versions/
Does this help to solve the urgency?
And when you have a bit of relaxed time soon, we can have a detailed zoom in on your M6 -> M7 case.

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:42 pm

mutools wrote:Another question: You say you're in the middle of an important project. So why don't you simply continue in M6 atm? As you know you can have different MuLab versions at the same time on your system, no problem, they're simply installed in different folders. If necessary you can redownload M6 from
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.mutools.com/mulab/legacy-versions</span>/
Does this help to solve the urgency?
And when you have a bit of relaxed time soon, we can have a detailed zoom in on your M6 -> M7 case.

That was exactly what I did. Thanks

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:50 pm

Taifunk wrote:You are welcome ,
beyond the new features for audio recording the old functions are still there,
so if I'm not mistaken your M6 project should still work in M7 with the same setup.

That was my problem to start with. I opened the old project, hit "record" and... nothing appeared. Checked the mic, cables, soundcard, the setup of the program... everything looked normal in MuLab, the recorder was in place, the routing used to record my brass and guitar. Tried again... nothing... Couldn't understand why. After 2 hours of fiddling with the settings, checking and double checking the cables, the preamp, the microphone and all the jazz, I came online to see what's up with that.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:25 pm

There indeed might be an issue when opening M6 audio recording projects into M7 cause of the changed strategy. Nothing is lost but the track recording controls do not appear for M6 audio tracks and when hitting record the newly recorded audio parts do not appear in the composer cause there are no M7 audio tracks yet. I'm currently working on M7.1, mainly a serious update of MuLab for Mac, but it will also contain extra support for opening M6 audio recording projects in M7. Stay tuned.

Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:37 pm

@sorohanro
I'm sorry for the inconvenience,happy to see that you have found a solution atm.
I use almost exclusively the new audio recording system and I was not aware of the issue just mentioned by Jo.

mutools wrote:There indeed might be an issue when opening M6 audio recording projects into M7 cause of the changed strategy. Nothing is lost but the track recording controls do not appear for M6 audio tracks and when hitting record the newly recorded audio parts do not appear in the composer cause there are no M7 audio tracks yet. I'm currently working on M7.1, mainly a serious update of MuLab for Mac, but it will also contain extra support for opening M6 audio recording projects in M7. Stay tuned.

Thanks for the news Jo,
looking forward to the new update and happy for the good news coming for mac users.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:23 pm

Taifunk wrote:I use almost exclusively the new audio recording system and I was not aware of the issue just mentioned by Jo.

I wasn't aware either, until sorohanro mentioned this now.

Thanks for the news Jo, looking forward to the new update and happy for the good news coming for mac users.

I'm sorry it takes some time but it was about this choice:

Option 1: Drop the Mac version in some near future, because the OSX Carbon legacy subsystem gets more and more deprecated and all computers and VST plugins are more and more 64 bit only, and Carbon is 32 bit only, and using Carbon gave more and more compatibility issues as Apple does not support it anymore. So there would only be MuLab for Windows.

Option 2: Rewrite the whole Mac specific code layer so it uses Cocoa so to get MuLab for Mac up to date with Mac OSX.

It is option 2.
So soon there will be a MuLab 64 bit for Mac.
A test version will be available one of the days.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:50 pm

Just out of interest - in terms of testing the coming release - how much impact is the Cocoa support having on the Windows code?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:06 pm

Good question. Well generally there should be little impact on the Windows version, but i reorganized certain code sections in order to maintain a good structure with as much platform independent code as possible, and so it will be good if the M7.1 Windows version is well tested too. It's also my intention to add a couple of other improvements to M7.1 so that this update will be interesting to everyone, both Mac and Windows users.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:22 pm

mutools wrote: It's also my intention to add a couple of other improvements to M7.1 so that this update will be interesting to everyone, both Mac and Windows users.

Like time stretching?

Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:35 pm

mutools wrote:
Taifunk wrote:I use almost exclusively the new audio recording system and I was not aware of the issue just mentioned by Jo.
I wasn't aware either, until sorohanro mentioned this now.

Ok ,good that sorohanro has reported this issue

mutools wrote:I'm sorry it takes some time but it was about this choice:

Option 1: Drop the Mac version in some near future, because the OSX Carbon legacy subsystem gets more and more deprecated and all computers and VST plugins are more and more 64 bit only, and Carbon is 32 bit only, and using Carbon gave more and more compatibility issues as Apple does not support it anymore. So there would only be MuLab for Windows.

Option 2: Rewrite the whole Mac specific code layer so it uses Cocoa so to get MuLab for Mac up to date with Mac OSX.

It is option 2.
So soon there will be a MuLab 64 bit for Mac.
A test version will be available one of the days.

I imagine that this required an hard work,
I think it was the right choice,another big step for Mulab and I hope that Mac users will be happy

Unfortunately I can not test the new version for Mac but I am ready for 7.1 for Windows!
Thanks Jo!

mutools wrote:It's also my intention to add a couple of other improvements to M7.1 so that this update will be interesting to everyone, both Mac and Windows users.

ok now I read this and I can only say that I can not wait!

MuTools

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I Can't Record Audio in the New MuLab