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Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:52 pm

mutools wrote:Yes indeed one of the reasons i decided to go for these Mac works is to step in the direction of MUX VST for Mac. M7.1 is an important step forward in that direction.

Ok

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:38 pm

mutools wrote:Good news on the MuLab for Mac 64 bit story: I found the reasons for the high CPU usage in the UI thread. Oh man Apple can sometimes be so strange/erratic Anyway, besides loosing many hours to analyze this, the good news is i found a solution and it makes a huge difference! Now M7.1 UI performance is even better than M7.0. Update coming soon.

Side note to the Windows users who may feel penalized by these Mac works: (and to myself sometimes criticizing Mac) The Mac dev tools includes a very interesting analysis tool with which an app can be optimized. Yes Mac can be great, it's a wonderful tool! I will use this tool to also further optimize code parts that are common to both platforms, so also here the Windows users benefit from these Mac works.

Jo, this new version is a thing of beauty! If anything, it's now .5-1% more efficient than the 32-bit version. Consider me 64-bit now!

Thank you SO much for your hard work and I can hardly wait to see what comes next!

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:53 pm

Thank you syntonica!
Please keep on jamming with this new version and feedback anything that needs attention.
That may include sounds / music tracks

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:11 pm

I think I may have spoken too soon. The cursor bar and fader animations are jumpy, like a couple of frames a second rather than smooth animation. If I hide the faders, then the cursor bar runs fine. I don't think that they are getting a big enough time slice.

On the plus side, no errors are bring logged anymore.

I'm about ready to lay down some vocals, depending on how my voice is behaving this week. Time to check out recording.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:20 pm

What do you mean with the cursor bar?
I also tried to repeat "jumpy fader animations" by automating a rack volume but it looks fine here.
Additional info welcome.

antoniaz · Post by **antoniaz** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:47 pm

I have tried MuLab 7.1.8 for OSX 64 bit but I can no longer open a project done yesterday with version 7.1.7.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:43 pm

Why not? What happens?

Calum · Post by **Calum** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:25 pm

Hi Jo, I'm late to the party but I'm sure you realise how excited I am about this. Just loaded MULAB 7.1.8 on my ageing core2duo iMac running a recently installed OSX Sierra and the only surprises are pleasant ones. Sampletank 3 loads without a hitch, all the white windows issues from plugins such as Bliss, Helm and Tangle are gone and CPU appears to be more efficient than before. I will keep testing to see if I can break anything but I can't thank you enough for this update. Roll on Mac MUX!

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:13 am

mutools wrote:What do you mean with the cursor bar?
I also tried to repeat "jumpy fader animations" by automating a rack volume but it looks fine here.
Additional info welcome.

By cursor bar, I mean the song position cursor. And by fader animations, I mean the LEDs, not the sliders themselves.

Also, I tried opening a fresh copy in El Capitan, but all I get is an all-white splash screen. Is it my computer?

lol

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:06 am

Which version of El Capitan? The latest one? If not can you pls try updating to OSX 10.11.6 and retry running M7.1.8.

antoniaz · Post by **antoniaz** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:37 am

mutools wrote:Why not? What happens?

All racks are not loaded properly. I just get the MIDI tracks.
Maybe something wrong with plugin manager.
I tried to attach the log file to this forum but I got errors.

Below a summary of the log:

00:21:13:703 Mac OSX
00:21:13:703 MuLab FREE 7.1.8 64 bit
00:21:13:703 ApplicationFilePath=/Volumes/Macintosh HD/Applications/MuLab 64 Bit/MuLab.app
00:21:13:703 /Volumes/Macintosh HD/Applications/MuLab 64 Bit/MuLab.app
00:21:13:703 Num screens = 1
00:21:13:703 Screen 1 = 0,23,1920,985
00:21:13:703 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]
00:21:13:703 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]
00:21:13:737 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]
...
00:21:14:782 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]
...
00:33:25:413 BWndw[107]
00:33:25:414 Open project into... => Replace This Project
00:33:25:578 Xpand!2 has VST version 2400
00:33:25:633 Error MpuStp[1029]
00:33:27:093 IWindow[409]
00:33:27:093 BWndw[107]
00:33:27:094 Couldn't create some module(s) => OK
00:33:27:094 MpuStp[1050] couldn't load plug rack
00:33:29:402 IWindow[409]
00:33:29:402 BWndw[107]
00:33:29:403 Couldn't open project => OK
00:37:18:389 IWindow[409]
00:37:18:389 BWndw[107]
00:37:18:391 Are you sure to close Giro Mu 7 and quit? => Quit without Save
00:37:18:392 BWndw[107]
00:37:18:415 IWindow[413]
00:37:18:463 ApplicationFilePath=/Volumes/Macintosh HD/Applications/MuLab 64 Bit/MuLab.app
00:37:20:121 Logged 35 errors

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:47 am

Calum wrote:Hi Jo, I'm late to the party but I'm sure you realise how excited I am about this. Just loaded MULAB 7.1.8 on my ageing core2duo iMac running a recently installed OSX Sierra and the only surprises are pleasant ones. Sampletank 3 loads without a hitch, all the white windows issues from plugins such as Bliss, Helm and Tangle are gone and CPU appears to be more efficient than before. I will keep testing to see if I can break anything but I can't thank you enough for this update. Roll on Mac MUX!

Thanks for your feedback Calum! Of course i'm happy to hear all runs fine now.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:14 am

antoniaz wrote:
mutools wrote:Why not? What happens?
All racks are not loaded properly. I just get the MIDI tracks.

So do you get alerts like "VST plugin X not found" ?

Below a summary of the log:
00:21:13:703 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]

This error means that some VST plugin is trying to do some invalid threading crossover. Better not to use such plugins. The next version will also include the VST plugin's name in that error log.

00:33:25:578 Xpand!2 has VST version 2400
00:33:25:633 Error MpuStp[1029]

This error means a VST could not be created. It's strange that the log does not contain more info about the reason. Did you send the complete log?

Other question: Do your other VST projects open fine?
Is it only this specific project that won't open?

antoniaz · Post by **antoniaz** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:42 pm

mutools wrote:
antoniaz wrote:
mutools wrote:Why not? What happens?
All racks are not loaded properly. I just get the MIDI tracks.
So do you get alerts like "VST plugin X not found" ?

Below a summary of the log:
00:21:13:703 Error VstPlgnMngr[1103]

This error means that some VST plugin is trying to do some invalid threading crossover. Better not to use such plugins. The next version will also include the VST plugin's name in that error log.

00:33:25:578 Xpand!2 has VST version 2400
00:33:25:633 Error MpuStp[1029]

This error means a VST could not be created. It's strange that the log does not contain more info about the reason. Did you send the complete log?

Other question: Do your other VST projects open fine?
Is it only this specific project that won't open?

Thanks, I will be able to check tonight about the precise message but if I remember well I got something like "VST plugin X not found".
Anyway, new VST projects directly created with 7.1.8 do not show issues.
The issue is in reopening an older 7.1.7 project (I have just one of them).

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:49 pm

Taifunk wrote:
mutools wrote:Yes indeed one of the reasons i decided to go for these Mac works is to step in the direction of MUX VST for Mac. M7.1 is an important step forward in that direction.
Ok

Yay!

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