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runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:48 am

Any way for them to work ?

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:28 am

Metaplugin from DDMF works with the VST shell, but not the AU shell.

Minihost Modular does not.

I have not tried Blue Cat's Patchwork.

runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:29 am

Thank's for Reply

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:40 am

I just tested the Blue Cat. Cuz I'm bored and stuff.

Loads the VST and VST3 shells beautifully, even better that Metaplugin.

Won't touch the AU version, however, as I suspect a serious hack there...

runaudio · Post by **runaudio** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:49 am

Thank's for the update

carlarsenic · Post by **carlarsenic** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:57 pm

Any free alternatives? I've spent enough on Waves plugins so it seems odd that I have to pay for a 3rd party to make those VSTs work.

LYTZ · Post by **LYTZ** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:10 pm

carlarsenic wrote:Any free alternatives? I've spent enough on Waves plugins so it seems odd that I have to pay for a 3rd party to make those VSTs work.

No. And I would highly recommend Blue Cat Patchwork when you want stable Wave Plugins.
Despite the fact that it uses double the CPU than DDMF.

Don't touch Nomad Factory Magma. Crashfest like nothing else.

You might want to give New Sonic Arts Freestyle a spin, it's the newest one out there, but also
pretty expensive. I am checking this one out myself right now, but for other reasons.

Another option might be Nyrv Systems Agent. Although setup time here is pretty high.
But I think this one, *if* it does at all, might handle the Wave-Shell best,
as it's priority is a professional mixing enviroment. So it should.

(There is also a pretty unknown one called VSTForx, it's just 15.- bucks, but I don't know about
Wave-Shell compatibility on that one.)

Best,
tL.

LYTZ · Post by **LYTZ** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:11 pm

Might not be true by the way. There is the free Minihost modular by Image Line...
It never went out of beta since 2 or 3 years, I also don't know if it handles the Wave Shell and it is reported
to be very glitchy and buggy, but you might want to give it a try anyways, cause it's free, y'know...

LYTZ · Post by **LYTZ** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:14 pm

LYTZ wrote:Might not be true by the way. There is the free Minihost modular by Image Line...
It never went out of beta since 2 or 3 years, I also don't know if it handles the Wave Shell and it is reported
to be very glitchy and buggy, but you might want to give it a try anyways, cause it's free, y'know...

Oh, it was mentioned before and doesn't seem to work... So looks like you're out of luck with any free options.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:19 pm

Just wondering: Are there any other VST plugins except for Waves that use the VST shell?

carlarsenic · Post by **carlarsenic** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:44 pm

Thanks folks. I just have a mental limit on my spending for plugins and Waves have been good at specials for $149 VSTs to go for $39 or whatnot. I never spent $100 on a plugin, let alone on something that only lets me use those plugins - and to pay more for a plugin to play my plugins than what the cost of the DAW itself is, well as confusing as this sentence is, I still hope you understand my point of view.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm not getting my money's worth with MuLab. I'm just saying I'm having a hard time justifying the cost to myself.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:27 am

mutools wrote:Just wondering: Are there any other VST plugins except for Waves that use the VST shell?

Not to my knowledge... This is one of the reasons I have abandoned using waves products.
Not the only reason but one of them definitely. Dunno why they cant just make things
like everyone else.

If it were me, I wouldn't bother trying to support it. No doubt many would not be happy
about that though.

-Cheers

*btw: Have you tried contacting them? There was a time when they wouldn't work
in FL Studio. At the time, waves said "we don't support FL Studio", couple years later
they cooperated and got them working. Even made a big deal about it. I thought that
funny due to the attitude they had expressed to me before about FL Studio being
not worth their time.

I will say though, out of the 11 or so DAWs that I own and use, MuLab is the only one where
they don't work.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:47 am

carlarsenic wrote:I'm having a hard time justifying the cost to myself

Well, there's a fair bit of value for money:
I use BlueCat Patchwork to host AU/VST2/3 and quickly layer and serial/parallel chain synths and FX, and it's a lightweight standalone/live host. It also opens possibilities such as the freeware SoundMagic Spectral AU plugin suite

Also, BlueCat MB-7 is a multi-band plugin-host that lets you chain different Waves, AU, and VST2/3 FX for each band. It might increase the usefulness of all your Waves plugins.
BlueCat bundles them, or with 32Lives, and they're very stable.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:56 am

Windows people can give this a whack:

http://hypercube-softwares.duckdns.org/ ... stwrapper/

It purports to wrap the waves shell into separate VSTs so they can be easily loaded. Now if this wad only available for the Mac...

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:01 am

VSTForx does load Waves WaveShell plugins.

I was pretty surprised, kinda assumed it couldn't, but I just tested and it loaded them.

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