Hive suggestion

[mcnoone]

This is about the arp, or possibly even the sequencer, in Hive.
I know there are some controls for it regarding attack and decay. Yet no release.
This is most likely a request to add a release knob, if that would be possible.

The problem is that once you take your finger off the key on midi release of playing an arp or sequence.
There is no way to use some release envelope or other control method to keep the arp playing for a few more seconds or so. On release of the note, it just stops playing.

Yes sometimes you can use a delay effect to fake a continuance of the arp playing, but it's not the same.
I've done it using the microkorg XL where the arp will continue a bit longer after keys are released, depending on the release envelope settings.
As an example I've posted this Lfo to envelope only type sound I did using Hive.
I would like to know if U-he can make the arp do the same as this lfo patch in regards to having it continue playing for some set time even after note off release occurs?
Lfo patch example audio.
https://app.box.com/s/akwxt7pjp0vaxy5j210bfoc9yfo17gi2

[mcnoone]

So can the Uhe team add a release function for the arp? There's attack, decay...now we add release.
Can you do it?

[Urs]

We're currently in some kind of bootcamp. I'll bring it up

[Howard]

So can the Uhe team add a release function for the arp? There's attack, decay...now we add release. Can you do it?

I found it hard to understand your request, mainly because those 'Attack' and 'Decay' controls have nothing to do with the arpeggiator – they belong to the modulation source "sequencer gate" as described on page 27 of the user guide. Anyway...

The problem is that once you take your finger off the key on midi release of playing an arp or sequence.
There is no way to use some release envelope or other control method to keep the arp playing for a few more seconds or so. On release of the note, it just stops playing.

I think I get what you're after now. Use delay, negatively modulating the Mix parameter from Gate so that it mainly appears after release. Results can sound very (!) similar to your example. Implementing a special kind of "extended gate" isn't likely to happen any time soon. BTW You can get a similar effect in Zebra using MSEGs for the pitches.

[mcnoone]

So can the Uhe team add a release function for the arp? There's attack, decay...now we add release. Can you do it?

I found it hard to understand your request, mainly because those 'Attack' and 'Decay' controls have nothing to do with the arpeggiator – they belong to the modulation source "sequencer gate" as described on page 27 of the user guide. Anyway...

The problem is that once you take your finger off the key on midi release of playing an arp or sequence.
There is no way to use some release envelope or other control method to keep the arp playing for a few more seconds or so. On release of the note, it just stops playing.

I think I get what you're after now. Use delay, negatively modulating the Mix parameter from Gate so that it mainly appears after release. Results can sound very (!) similar to your example. Implementing a special kind of "extended gate" isn't likely to happen any time soon. BTW You can get a similar effect in Zebra using MSEGs for the pitches.

Okay. Yes I was only trying to get some extended music after release of either the arp or sequencer.
I know the Zebra mseg's can do it, and so can the lfo's of any synth with a long release to it.
Was just hoping that Hive would have it implemented in the future as it can make arps more playable and musical imo.

[Howard]

Okay. Yes I was only trying to get some extended music after release of either the arp or sequencer. I know the Zebra mseg's can do it, and so can the lfo's of any synth with a long release to it.
Was just hoping that Hive would have it implemented in the future as it can make arps more playable and musical imo.

Such a feature is highly unusual. Do you know whether any other synths except Microkorg XL have it? BTW as MicroKorgXL owner, I'll check that out when I get home. If it's "truly amazing", I'll add an official feature request! .
Re "so can the lfo's of any synth with a long release to it". Non-sequitur, different subject entirely?

[mcnoone]

Such a feature is highly unusual. Do you know whether any other synths except Microkorg XL have it? BTW as MicroKorgXL owner, I'll check that out when I get home. If it's "truly amazing", I'll add an official feature request! .
Re "so can the lfo's of any synth with a long release to it". Non-sequitur, different subject entirely?

Note that I have the XL plus version, though it is not an actual special feature. It is just that setting the release to longer times, continues to retrigger a decaying part of the arp as your fingers are taken of the keys. Note off. While note off in Hive, just gives us no such retriggering effect on long release times.

Yet all this is easier to see in the Ableton Live arpeggiator with the retrigger functions (2 knobs at the bottom there) It keeps the arp going for an extra time even after note off occurs.
It is actually that feature that I am suggesting. Yet the same effect can be done with any lfo targeted to an output where the lfo's setting is high, and then making the release a long one. The notes carry on even after release.

The reason why is because it makes for more note interactions and playability between tapping on notes and going to another one while the last notes are still decaying.

That example lfo I posted is in the 10.Loops-tuned folder called mc Giants and even the one below that called Graphite has the same effect. Implementing a feature like the Live arp retrigger function has, would do it though.

[mcnoone]

You know what?
It might just be that I did have lfo settings on the filter and other target settings with these arps that made me think it was the release setting making the arp carry over notes longer than the note off.
Yet it was these slight lfo's modulations to some settings that was reacting with the arp, making it seem like the arp and filter release settings were the cause.
Should have remembered, or re-checked my settings again.
Also I don't know if these arp options in Live are able to do what I am trying to.
The fading out here still requires that the note be pressed down on the keys.

It's too bad that arpeggiators or sequencers don't have this kind of mode that allows them to carry on the notes for a set length of time after note off though. Not the latch function thing, because that is infinite repetition, where what I am talking about is a fading out over seconds of the last note on arp notes played. Like the lfo effect on long release times.

edit: I guess just using the arp in Hive, with some lfo modulations and noticeable delay settings can fake the effect enough.

[pdxindy]

It's too bad that arpeggiators or sequencers don't have this kind of mode that allows them to carry on the notes for a set length of time after note off though. Not the latch function thing, because that is infinite repetition, where what I am talking about is a fading out over seconds of the last note on arp notes played.

Interesting idea... !