Can any of you guys get close to this Jupiter 6 patch in Diva?

[nevernamed]

Mate these sound really good. Very close. I like the filter slowly opening up, almost like a sweep, over time on the 4 & 5. I'll have to figure out how to do that. It's a nice touch. Gives a lot of scope/movement to a sound. Listening to this I think the multimode filter is sooooo bloody close to the Jupiter 6 thing it's uncanny. The oscillators sound a bit different to my ears than what I can hear from these videos of the actual units. Which one of the waveforms is the Jupiter 6? There are three waveforms: Analogue 1 & 2 as well as "Ideal".

I can't really comment on the Tyrell thing. I don't own that synth unfortunately.

[nevernamed]

This kinda illustrates one problem with trying to reproduce many synth patches, especially those from recordings, no matter how well known or iconic; what we hear is not often exactly what came out of the synths. They are processed much like any instrument/sound in the studio to suit the situation/mix/song.
EQ, compression, outboard effects, etc. We hear wonderful rich stereo sounds from what were mono synths (like the JP6) which had no on board effects at all. Many with no high pass filter either, which would often be necessary to fit the sound into a real mix.
Synths like the Juno, PolySix, etc had chorus added to, more or less, fill out what was missing in their architectures (one oscillator, etc) compared to their bigger brothers. But chorus, reverb, EQ are still added to a JP8 to enrich the sound. To my ears, unprocessed synths can sound, in recordings, even more unique than those that are.
That's why I think that uhe's addition of good quality effects makes perfect sense.. even with complex synth architectures, despite the "purist" approach. It's not cheating at all. And one of the reasons i love Diva and am looking forward to Zebra 3 and even better on-board effects.

I think we're all inspired to a degree by sounds we hear in context. In context of a record, a track etc etc whatever. And then we work backwards to reverse engineer. With this I was purely interested in just how close we are to the synth being modelled. Lately I've had an itch about a Jupiter 6 and there are a few around that could be considered good examples for purchase. But I'm not made of money so...

I've learned a few things through the process that were unexpected. For one Diva is a touchy beast. Little changes are often a world of sound. You have to be very delicate with your programming. And two there is no substitute for knowing the synth inside/out and sound design skills/experience. No amount of analogue will fix the lack of those things.

And third the dual vco model doesn't quite sound the same as what I can hear on the vintage synth (From the videos). I can't say that with confidence though because I dont' have the actual Jupiter to really investigate this. And also I don't quite know the difference between the waveforms. Analogue 2 sounds closest to what I can hear on the Jupiter 6. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Any thoughts/tips on how to bring them closer to the actual unit?

[david.beholder]

And third the dual vco model doesn't quite sound the same as what I can hear on the vintage synth (From the videos). I can't say that with confidence though because I dont' have the actual Jupiter to really investigate this. And also I don't quite know the difference between the waveforms. Analogue 2 sounds closest to what I can hear on the Jupiter 6. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Any thoughts/tips on how to bring them closer to the actual unit?

My 2C. I've tried to reproduce Jexus demos of JP6: they are usually dry (dryer) and showing amazing sound design. With Diva it's possible to get on territory but oftenly not possible to go further/nail sound. I think that's because neither oscs nor flt are not made after JP6.

Hilariously enough but I have higher reproduction success rate with JP8 demos especially with strings and brasses i.e. trademark sounds of JP8.

http://www.syntezatory.net.pl/roland_jupiter6.htm

[D-Fusion]

Mate these sound really good. Very close. I like the filter slowly opening up, almost like a sweep, over time on the 4 & 5. I'll have to figure out how to do that. It's a nice touch. Gives a lot of scope/movement to a sound. Listening to this I think the multimode filter is sooooo bloody close to the Jupiter 6 thing it's uncanny. The oscillators sound a bit different to my ears than what I can hear from these videos of the actual units. Which one of the waveforms is the Jupiter 6? There are three waveforms: Analogue 1 & 2 as well as "Ideal".

I can't really comment on the Tyrell thing. I don't own that synth unfortunately.

Tyrell is freeware

[nevernamed]

Tyrell is freeware

That's right however it isn't free in terms of investment of time and effort. I have to limit myself to just a few instruments otherwise I'll not get to know anything very well due to time constraints.

[nevernamed]

My 2C. I've tried to reproduce Jexus demos of JP6: they are usually dry (dryer) and showing amazing sound design. With Diva it's possible to get on territory but oftenly not possible to go further/nail sound. I think that's because neither oscs nor flt are not made after JP6.

Hilariously enough but I have higher reproduction success rate with JP8 demos especially with strings and brasses i.e. trademark sounds of JP8.

http://www.syntezatory.net.pl/roland_jupiter6.htm

I like this write up. Thanks! That's an interesting experience to note. I think Diva's on point for the most part but just a little different.

[jwc1967]

I think you'll find the JP6 was no monosynth

By "mono", I was referring to "not stereo". The JP 6 has single balanced and unbalanced outputs.