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HPfeiffer · Post by **HPfeiffer** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:50 pm

do_androids_dream wrote: Bark of dog is just an eq peak - that's it. You can do that with any eq.

Thanks for clarifying, I felt like it was producing some additional saturation/harmonic distortion - but I didn't use it a lot. It's just a resonance filter, then? Damn placebo-effect!

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:57 pm

HPfeiffer wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote: Bark of dog is just an eq peak - that's it. You can do that with any eq.
Thanks for clarifying, I felt like it was producing some additional saturation/harmonic distortion - but I didn't use it a lot. It's just a resonance filter, then? Damn placebo-effect!

Yeah just a narrow Q boost. He even explains that on the bod page.. I mean I guess it's handy to have it in a simply plugin but that's all it is.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:47 pm

do_androids_dream wrote: I think almost everyone ends up buying maxxbass/rbass eventually.

I've got Rbass when they gave it away as a freebie.
I use it sometimes on some soundfx-s, but never use it on music...

I think, MBassador is the better tool.

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:00 pm

Then there's of course BBE sonic maximizer, nowdays three plugin set. It used to be just few bucks for some time ago in Don't Crack.

http://www.bbesound.com/products/sonic- ... sweet.aspx

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:31 am

do_androids_dream wrote:
HPfeiffer wrote:Being Freeware, I would have mentioned Bark-Of-Dog as well. You can also mimic the effect using SEND:
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=515
Shape the input and the harmonics via the internal high- and lowpass - then switch to parallel-mode.
Bark of dog is just an eq peak - that's it. You can do that with any eq.

its actually a resonant high pass filter.

as far as Free Mac plugins Bark of the dog is the only freeware that does this

its a one trick pony that works
its is just quicker and more convenient.

its got a "mix" knob..which most EQ don't have (unless u make a send track)
and an additionnal "trim" fader

it just saves time

but i do prefer Waves' Maxxbass or Lo-Air or PSP's Mixbass (none of them are free)

a few Months(..or was it a year ?) ago Waves gave out RBass for free(facebook thinggy)

however Surfer EQ is kinda awesome doing this. u can have a eq band follow the pitch of a bass track
..instead of a static Bass boost

flugel45 · Post by **flugel45** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:24 pm

mementus wrote:Hello and thanks for your tips.

I am looking for a plugin like RBass or MaxxBass. Do you have any advice?

Yay

Why not just buy RBass and/or MaxxBass? They're always on sale somewhere.

Unless you're trying to avoid Waves...

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:24 pm

I've got some great result with the Waves Low Air - I think that's better in many cases than RBass or MaxxBass which I also own.

Sonic Sweet has Mach3 sub-bass generator - but I consider the Low Air better for this purpose.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:47 am

Not sure how 2016 works, but back in the day, I tried desperately to reproduce the "rbass" sounds, much misery ensued, especially considering that you can get it (at least used) at a great price.

Zookes · Post by **Zookes** » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:25 am

realmarco wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
HPfeiffer wrote:Being Freeware, I would have mentioned Bark-Of-Dog as well. You can also mimic the effect using SEND:
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=515
Shape the input and the harmonics via the internal high- and lowpass - then switch to parallel-mode.
Bark of dog is just an eq peak - that's it. You can do that with any eq.

its actually a resonant high pass filter.

as far as Free Mac plugins Bark of the dog is the only freeware that does this

its a one trick pony that works
its is just quicker and more convenient.

Bark of Dog was this joke plug-in to bash Voice of God from UAD.
Any plug-in to make a resonant hp filter can do this thing. This was the joke

Tearing Riots · Post by **Tearing Riots** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:25 am

Airwindows FathomFive, free.
Has replaced RBass for me, you have to dial back the mix knob a lot though.

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:45 pm

Zookes wrote:
realmarco wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
HPfeiffer wrote:Being Freeware, I would have mentioned Bark-Of-Dog as well. You can also mimic the effect using SEND:
http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=515
Shape the input and the harmonics via the internal high- and lowpass - then switch to parallel-mode.
Bark of dog is just an eq peak - that's it. You can do that with any eq.

its actually a resonant high pass filter.

as far as Free Mac plugins Bark of the dog is the only freeware that does this

its a one trick pony that works
its is just quicker and more convenient.
Bark of Dog was this joke plug-in to bash Voice of God from UAD.
Any plug-in to make a resonant hp filter can do this thing. This was the joke

perhaps but it still does something u cannot do with an EQ (mix)

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:07 am

Or, understand that the plug is unique and quit trying to belittle people who know better (who f....ing cares about some bark/dog nonsense)

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:52 am

You can do it free with a little plumbing. Basically, MaxxBass generates second-order harmonics from the bass fundamental that are filtered, compressed and mixed with the source. You need to dedicate an Aux channel in the DAW to set up a DIY MaxxBass and take more care with the settings.

Basically, the ordering is:
Low-pass filter the incoming signal to capture the fundamental
Generate second-order harmonics - a Chebyshev wave shaper will do the job. Ideally you want second-order harmonics but you can get away with more conventional third-order harmonics because you will...
Filter the output to prevent the harmonics appearing too far up the spectrum
And compress it.

Waves in this paper (http://www.maxx.com/objects/PDF/Bass_Ex ... arison.pdf - intended to demonstrate why it's better than TruBass) shows you want to compress the harmonics and boost the output: so that the setup is still generating harmonics when the bass subsides. You may want to compress the signal on the way in instead - a lot depends on how you handle the waveshaping.

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:09 am

Tearing Riots wrote:Airwindows FathomFive, free.
Has replaced RBass for me, you have to dial back the mix knob a lot though.

I don't know about RBass specifically (I don't know exactly how different it is to Maxx) but I compared FathomFive to MaxxBass and I couldn't get the punch of MaxxBass with it at all. It's still a great plugin though.

realmarco · Post by **realmarco** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:38 pm

incubus wrote:Or, understand that the plug is unique and quit trying to belittle people who know better (who f....ing cares about some bark/dog nonsense)

wow don't take it personnal i don't know u so i don't know if you're just beginning or hve been doing this for a long time

Is there a plugin like RBass or MaxxBass, even paid.