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brick · Post by **brick** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:07 pm

Mmm , host syncable looping envelopes...

Would be pretty cool either with or without the sync option . Always loved the possibilities of the loopable envelope being modulated by whatever . Makes for some mad rhythmic sounds .

zemoonie · Post by **zemoonie** » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:31 pm

After playing for a couple of weeks with Bazille, I'm impressed by the Tube 2 Stages distortion, I'd love to see this in Presswerk as a selectable output stage or an option in the Saturation circuit.

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:37 pm

Diva (may others too) usability issue: in save preset dialogue it's not possible to change input fields with tab - only with mouse clicks - very annoying behavior.
Btw it's might make sense to improve preset browser (may be) in general.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:41 pm

david.beholder wrote:Diva (may others too) usability issue: in saving preset dialogue it's not possible to switch input fields with tab - only with mouse clicks - annoying.

Depends on your host software... we tried, really

Btw it's might make sense to improve preset browser (may be) in general.

Our latest addition to the dev team is tasked with exactly that

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:59 pm

Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:Diva (may others too) usability issue: in saving preset dialogue it's not possible to switch input fields with tab - only with mouse clicks - annoying.
Depends on your host software... we tried, really

I saw tab key translates to tab symbol in field. Isn't it a sign?

My host is Ableton last on PC. Could test in Reaper if needed.

Urs wrote:
Btw it's might make sense to improve preset browser (may be) in general.
Our latest addition to the dev team is tasked with exactly that

If feedback is need I may provide one.

upd: in Reaper tab works as switch between fields. Why?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:46 am

david.beholder wrote:upd: in Reaper tab works as switch between fields. Why?

Because Reaper doesn't tamper as much (or at all?) with operating system messages I guess...?

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:01 am

Urs wrote: Because Reaper doesn't tamper as much (or at all?) with operating system messages I guess...?

That's I understood

I was more like "Why, Gosh? Why?". Btw, more observations in Ableton: Tab doesn't work up/down does but up/down only works in list of presets and doesn't work in list of folders (at least in Bazille).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:34 am

Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:upd: in Reaper tab works as switch between fields. Why?
Because Reaper doesn't tamper as much (or at all?) with operating system messages I guess...?

Well, if you right-click the title bar of the plugin you get the option to send ALL keyboard input to the plugin... That is tampering, in a way (but very helpful at times)

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:25 am

EvilDragon wrote: Well, if you right-click the title bar of the plugin you get the option to send ALL keyboard input to the plugin... That is tampering, in a way (but very helpful at times)

In Reaper it works fine by default

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:09 pm

That's true. However spacebar is usually stolen from plugins (there's a workaround, use Shift+spacebar).

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:01 am

Could there be optional R in moog-like ADS envelope?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:06 pm

david.beholder wrote:Could there be optional R in moog-like ADS envelope?

I guess there could. Maybe. One day. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:34 pm

Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:Could there be optional R in moog-like ADS envelope?
I guess there could. Maybe. One day. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.

No expectations here before RePro-1 and Z2.8, but even Moog accepted necessity of R and in modern synths.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:49 am

david.beholder wrote:
Urs wrote:
david.beholder wrote:Could there be optional R in moog-like ADS envelope?
I guess there could. Maybe. One day. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
No expectations here before RePro-1 and Z2.8, but even Moog accepted necessity of R and in modern synths.

We accepted it too. For example, Hive's envelopes have an R stage. Let me double check... yep, Repro-1 envelopes have an R stage as well! Furthermore I'm quite certain that Zebra 2.8 will add this stage, if things pan out nicely.

sorry, couldn't resist... I'll think about it re Diva, I have a few ideas for that anyway

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:04 pm

Urs wrote: We accepted it too. For example, Hive's envelopes have an R stage. Let me double check... yep, Repro-1 envelopes have an R stage as well! Furthermore I'm quite certain that Zebra 2.8 will add this stage, if things pan out nicely.

Oh Gosh, that's great news. Btw, do you know what H stage is?

))))))))

Urs wrote:sorry, couldn't resist... I'll think about it re Diva, I have a few ideas for that anyway

Yes please. I see now 2 examples of great modern envelopes:
1. Sub37 - ADSR, with optional DAHDSR, loop and sync

Btw, there are some detail that you'd like:

In Moog Sub 37 operation manual they wrote:RESET
By default, with envelope reset turned off, an envelope Attack sweeps the envelope output only from its current level to maximum. When the RESET button is lit the Attack starts from minimum regardless of the level at the time of the key press. This effect is more prominent with longer attack and release times.

2. DM12 - ADSR, log/lin/exp curves on each stage controllable independently, loop

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