Sylenth1 clone in mux

[MuTools]

Trancit indeed made a "Silencio" folder of great MUX synth patches. These patches are still in the library, be it in other folders now ie. the bass patches are in the Bass folder, the pads in the Pads folder etc.

[Nielzie]

I didn't know that. Can it load sylenth presets? That would be a killer feature would it not?

viewtopic.php?f=79&t=337562

In M6 it had its own "device" folder with presets I think, but now the presets are redistributed in other folders. But if you open a preset that was made in "Silencio", then you have the device/instrument in front of you.

No it can't load sylenth presets. It wouldn't be possible because in order to load sylenth presets it would need to have identical matching parameters, behaviours and paramater names under the hood. And even then I'm not sure it would be possible due to possible "encryption" of the preset fxp files (the right "instrument id" might have to be needed in order to open them?)

[whyterabbyt]

It seems some consider mux synth to be on a par with sylenth.

I consider Mux to be far more useful and interesting than Sylenth.

I suggested to jo about making a sylenth clone that can load sylenth presets. And sell it for around 80 euros. I'm sure there be many takers.

I counter-suggest that jo's efforts go into improving Mux as a modular synth instead of being wasted on pointlessly recreating someone else's synth because Sylenth. Im sure most of the people who bought Mux would agree. Anyone with a burning need for something just like Sylenth should really just go and buy Sylenth.

[sl23]

Thank you for your constructive criticism.
I agree to an extent.

It was just simply an effort to help jo with his personal situation. I thought sylenth was a very popular synth and making a clone that could load sylenth presets and be cheaper would benefit many users.

I appreciate it would be a fair bit of work, but less so than making from scratch. And after all if there's a price tag, there should be some work involved, shouldn't there?

But, OK, I guess it's not worth doing, so fair enough, I submit, it was only a suggestion to try and help. With the best of intention, I shall leave you to it...

[sl23]

Sorry, double posted.

[Taifunk]

I think you should go to the Sylenth forum and convince the dev to make a Mux clone
Jokes aside,honestly,nothing to say about the sylenth sound quality,it is excellent but do not see anything special about this synth or rather I do not see anything that mux can not already do much better.
I understand why many guys would like this synth,is the most famous and has a plethora of soundbank...
but if you have a Ferrari why you want a tricycle?
I have a curiosity and I would like to hear the opinion of some users,
what has Sylenth so special?
talking about sound,what is missing in Mux?


to do something useful,instead of making absurd efforts to clone a synth,how about doing a fine thread where we collect the sounds for Mux?
a topic where users post their favorite sound,so maybe we make a beautiful library for mux?
I saw that zexila has already had an excellent initiative for the patches here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=472928

SL23 forgive me, I do not want hijacking your topic.

[chk071]

Fair enough that some argue that MUX is much more useful to THEM, but, and, that's a big but(t), the appeal of Sylenth, and likes, is, that it is a fairly simple and simple to use synth, and, with all due respect, MUX is a complete monster, which will overwhelm 90 % of users, and will be total overkill for what they do, just like Reaktor, and other DIY modular synths, which let you build anything you want inside them. Hence i think that it is fair enough to request something more simple. Someone suggested to make MuSynth (which is based on MUX i believe?) standalone, and usable out side of MuLab, as a freeware synth. I think that is a great idea TBH. Of course would be nicer still if its architecture could be made even more like Sylenth. And it would attract a lot more people than MUX attracts, simply because of the simplicity. If you are a modular geek freak, fair enough, then it is not for you. For 90 % of the users, who aren't as technically sophicticated, or, who just want to make music, see the popularity of Sylenth, it'd be great.

[MuTools]

Hence i think that it is fair enough to request something more simple. Someone suggested to make MuSynth (which is based on MUX i believe?) standalone, and usable out side of MuLab, as a freeware synth. I think that is a great idea TBH.

Freeware or not, i'm open to the idea to make something like MuSynth VST, cfr this topic: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=472628
But that's a very different idea than the idea to try to clone Sylenth, which i won't do.
Lets clearly separate these 2 ideas as they're essentially different.

[chk071]

Ok, fair enough. I was rather inclined to "something easier than MUX" anyway, rather than an exact Sylenth1 clone. Just saying that it has a reason why it has become so popular, and that's the simplicity appeal.

[whyterabbyt]

Fair enough that some argue that MUX is much more useful to THEM, but, and, that's a big but(t), the appeal of Sylenth, and likes, is, that it is a fairly simple and simple to use synth

...so replicating it in MUX as per the thread title would be somewhat of an odd step for that audience.

[chk071]

True. I figured it was meant to be a standalone plugin. And i figured something like that already existed in Silencio anyway.

[MuTools]

Ok, fair enough. I was rather inclined to "something easier than MUX" anyway, rather than an exact Sylenth1 clone. Just saying that it has a reason why it has become so popular, and that's the simplicity appeal.

Yes i understand & agree with that. That's why i'm open to the idea for something like MuSynth Plug-In. In fact, as mentioned in the other topic, i'm already playing with the idea for a longer time and step by step i take tech decissions that take that idea into account. To be more concrete: It's not about MuSynth in its current form, but it's about MuSynth in a (typical) semi-modular form. That's a much more accessible/popular form than a pure modular form, indeed.

[Nielzie]

Ok, fair enough. I was rather inclined to "something easier than MUX" anyway, rather than an exact Sylenth1 clone. Just saying that it has a reason why it has become so popular, and that's the simplicity appeal.

Yes i understand & agree with that. That's why i'm open to the idea for something like MuSynth Plug-In. In fact, as mentioned in the other topic, i'm already playing with the idea for a longer time and step by step i take tech decissions that take that idea into account. To be more concrete: It's not about MuSynth in its current form, but it's about MuSynth in a (typical) semi-modular form. That's a much more accessible/popular form than a pure modular form, indeed.

I agree that that is a great idea. And if it will be an impressive synth, that will probably lead to many curious musicians to try what's further available from MuLab.

[Taifunk]

+1
This really looks like a good idea

[sl23]

SL23 forgive me, I do not want hijacking your topic.

Hey, no problem. Personally, I think all that talk of thread hijacking is bollocks, the conversation goes where it goes! Easy enough to bring it back, should I want/need to. Thanks for the apology though, graciously received.