Hi guys
It looks like Melda plugins don't see the sidechain signal in Bitwig. I tried other 3rd party plugins (like GuitarRig) and they receive the sidechain signal, as expected.
Am I the only one having this issue?
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Later edit: it works if the surround mode in Melda plugins is deactivated!
Melda plugins don't receive the sidechain signal in Bitwig (solved!)
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- KVRAF
- 2702 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Bitwig is a very good DAW! Nice choice.
Sometime Melda plugins have to have a sidechain switch activated for it to work.
Which plugin are you using?
Sometime Melda plugins have to have a sidechain switch activated for it to work.
Which plugin are you using?
Jason @ Melda Production
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122 - KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
My guess would be that Bitwig doesn't understand the fact that these plugins support surround, hence reporting 16in8out. Hard to say, could you be more specific about plugin interface, OS etc? Anyways please try VST, this one reports 4in2out as other plugins. Live also doesn't properly support any plugin interface and using VST helps there. SInce Bitwig is sort of Live clone, I assume it could be similar.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 740 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
I'm using the VST 64bit version of the plugins, both in Bitwig and Ableton.MeldaProduction wrote:My guess would be that Bitwig doesn't understand the fact that these plugins support surround, hence reporting 16in8out. Hard to say, could you be more specific about plugin interface, OS etc? Anyways please try VST, this one reports 4in2out as other plugins. Live also doesn't properly support any plugin interface and using VST helps there. SInce Bitwig is sort of Live clone, I assume it could be similar.
As you can see in this printscreen, Bitwig says "Signal will be sent to the second stereo pair of the plug-in. (channel 3/4)". I don't know what that means, but it says the same when I use, for example, GuitarRig, and GuitaRig receives the sidechain input.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 740 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Then what's the "Side-chain" tab for?pone wrote:MCompressor does not support side chain, those 8 ins and outs are for surround.
Anyway, I tried the MAutoDynamicEQ as well. In Ableton it receives the sidechain input, in Bitwig it doesn't.
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- KVRist
- 206 posts since 17 Mar, 2013
Side chaining of the same signal that gets processed but filtered. MCompressor is free and that is one of its limitations.KTlin wrote:Then what's the "Side-chain" tab for?pone wrote:MCompressor does not support side chain, those 8 ins and outs are for surround.
Anyway, I tried the MAutoDynamicEQ as well. In Ableton it receives the sidechain input, in Bitwig it doesn't.
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
But it should work for MAutoDynamicEQ in Bitwig. When you try it what do its meters show?MCompressor Sidechain Info page wrote:Side-chain panel lets you do additional filtering of the level detector input. Please note that its name does not mean it is related to the processor's secondary input (if it has one). Its main purpose is to filter the signal fed to the level detector. This is useful when, for example, you want to remove high volume peaks of a particular frequency.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 740 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
pone wrote:Side chaining of the same signal that gets processed but filtered. MCompressor is free and that is one of its limitations.
Thanks guys! I wasn't aware of this limitation in the MCompressor.DarkStar wrote:MCompressor Sidechain Info page wrote:Side-chain panel lets you do additional filtering of the level detector input. Please note that its name does not mean it is related to the processor's secondary input (if it has one). Its main purpose is to filter the signal fed to the level detector. This is useful when, for example, you want to remove high volume peaks of a particular frequency.
The Side meter in MAuroDynamicEQ shows no activity, even though I activated the side-chain input in Bitwig.DarkStar wrote:But it should work for MAutoDynamicEQ in Bitwig. When you try it what do its meters show?
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Hmm, that's odd. And when you replace MAutoDynamicEQ by another sidechaining plug-in then that plug-in receives the signal OK.
To check the audio into the plug-in how about putting Manalyzer on each pair of channels? Or MMultiAnalyzer?
To check the audio into the plug-in how about putting Manalyzer on each pair of channels? Or MMultiAnalyzer?
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Ah ha, in Surround Mode MAutoDynamicEQ has 8 main input channels, followed by 8 sidechain channels; in that case the sidechain signal would need to be routed to the first two sidechain channels (9 and 10 on the track).
The upper screenshot here is the initial view of the plug-in inputs and outputs in Reaper (on a 4-channel track: In the lower screenshot I have re-routed track channels 3+4 to the sidechain inputs.
I have not yet worked out what all those other sidechain inputs are for (for a 7.1 sidechain signal?), nor how it would work.
The upper screenshot here is the initial view of the plug-in inputs and outputs in Reaper (on a 4-channel track: In the lower screenshot I have re-routed track channels 3+4 to the sidechain inputs.
I have not yet worked out what all those other sidechain inputs are for (for a 7.1 sidechain signal?), nor how it would work.
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- KVRAF
- 10375 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 740 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Unfortunately, afaik, Bitwig doesn't have this routing capability, or does it?DarkStar wrote:... in that case the sidechain signal would need to be routed to the first two sidechain channels (9 and 10 on the track).... The upper screenshot here is the initial view of the plug-in inputs and outputs in Reaper (on a 4-channel track: