Hey all,
I need to start killing off orphaned clips in my projects. But it scares me. Now--
Assuming I've checked all my edits and they contain the only clips I want to keep--
If I go to "find orphan clips", it gives me a list. Can I select all and delete without losing the information in my edits?
I know, I know... the answer is obvious... but since it scares me, I thought I'd check to make sure there wasn't some sort of bug or something that would harsh my deal.
Greg
Killing the Orphans
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
Don't do it! Well, carefully examine the first batch of orphans you delete, anyway.
I'm not sure if it still holds true, but a couple versions back I tried to find orphans (I think it only works for the currently selected project?), and some of the orphans T found were referenced by the edit, either in the sampler or just in an audio track. Not good.
I assumed it would just find audio clips not referenced anywhere in my edits. Anyway now I just delete manually.
I'm not sure if it still holds true, but a couple versions back I tried to find orphans (I think it only works for the currently selected project?), and some of the orphans T found were referenced by the edit, either in the sampler or just in an audio track. Not good.
I assumed it would just find audio clips not referenced anywhere in my edits. Anyway now I just delete manually.
Last edited by Jeremy_NSL on Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Phew! Thanks for that reply...
Man...
I wish I could know that any of the orphans were just leftover dreck. I like saving some files (ie. Rhythm clips that didn't get used), but as long as they're named properly, they're easy to spot. Some of the rest of the stuff I accumulate, I'm not sure about.
Alright. Manual for now, it is.
Greg
Man...
I wish I could know that any of the orphans were just leftover dreck. I like saving some files (ie. Rhythm clips that didn't get used), but as long as they're named properly, they're easy to spot. Some of the rest of the stuff I accumulate, I'm not sure about.
Alright. Manual for now, it is.
Greg
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 10 Jul, 2003 from Rotterdam
what i prefer, rather than klilling the orphan clips.. is to select the 'ultimate' version of the edit, and do an 'export edit' operation (exporting to a directory rather than as an archive file).. this exports a new project file, the edit you chose, and all the audio clips in it, to the dir you choose.
Then you can happily delete the old folder that you were using while making the track..
whats nice about this approach is that you can open the newly created project and assure your self that it all works before deleting the old folder.
(ah, but i only want to keep one edit of a track.. maybe this isn't appropriate for you if you want to keep more)
Then you can happily delete the old folder that you were using while making the track..
whats nice about this approach is that you can open the newly created project and assure your self that it all works before deleting the old folder.
(ah, but i only want to keep one edit of a track.. maybe this isn't appropriate for you if you want to keep more)
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
that approach sounds good too cbit.
I'm really annoyed right now that I can't easily move edits from one project to another
I have about 10 edits that ended up different songs entirely - all in one project. Now I need to get them in their own project so I can archive them. Argh, the hassle...
I'm really annoyed right now that I can't easily move edits from one project to another
I have about 10 edits that ended up different songs entirely - all in one project. Now I need to get them in their own project so I can archive them. Argh, the hassle...-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
OK, this is in fact helping a little, and it's a good idea; however, I DO need to keep some of the unused material.
SO, what I propose (for myself, following cbit's general idea) is the following:
Make my "ultimate edit". Do not export it yet. Check for orphaned clips and generate a list of files that I may still want to keep by (ugh) going through some of the files. Some of them should be 'obvious' trash, like old renders that aren't being used anymore by the ultimate edit. The rest will be relatively easy to sort through, too, but just tedious because after each delete you have to click your project again and select 'find orphan clips' again (why wouldn't it just keep the orphan clips window open...???? Seems like a large oversight to me).
Then... I guess that's about it... sorted!
Another question, though--
Let's say I just want a backup to 'be sure', so that I'll at least have an "ultimate edit" and then I can delete space-consuming files later, in the method described above:
In the Orphaned Clips list, if I choose "just remove clip" and NOT delete the files themselves, when I choose "export project" will it only export the clips and edits left in the project window, or will it still export the files that are in the directory but aren't listed in Tracktion's project browser?
Greg
SO, what I propose (for myself, following cbit's general idea) is the following:
Make my "ultimate edit". Do not export it yet. Check for orphaned clips and generate a list of files that I may still want to keep by (ugh) going through some of the files. Some of them should be 'obvious' trash, like old renders that aren't being used anymore by the ultimate edit. The rest will be relatively easy to sort through, too, but just tedious because after each delete you have to click your project again and select 'find orphan clips' again (why wouldn't it just keep the orphan clips window open...???? Seems like a large oversight to me).
Then... I guess that's about it... sorted!
Another question, though--
Let's say I just want a backup to 'be sure', so that I'll at least have an "ultimate edit" and then I can delete space-consuming files later, in the method described above:
In the Orphaned Clips list, if I choose "just remove clip" and NOT delete the files themselves, when I choose "export project" will it only export the clips and edits left in the project window, or will it still export the files that are in the directory but aren't listed in Tracktion's project browser?
Greg