Diva...the Test of Time...

[mcnoone]

Us?

I was simply including all the other people in this thread who aren't aware of what dictates a feature that is "counter creative".
I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.
I've never seen a synth feature in any synth that was any less creative than a bucket, so I'll ask you again.
Can you or can you not explain to us what is a counter creative synth feature?

[Urs]

Are you doubting his vast experience of project management?

No, hehe, but I still doubt anyone who's as experienced in synth design as myself would have tried to lecture me. When I speak with those guys, the layout of a subsection of a UI is usally the least of concerns. On second thought, there aren't many people like that.

[zerocrossing]

a standard modulation matrix could make the overall usability better

The reason why Diva hasn't got a mod matrix has been explained several times, most recently here.

ModMatrices and Multicore are mutually exclusive

Even if we finally extend Matrices to work in a multicore environment, the lag generator and rectifier will need just the same extra treatment that's the base of criticism.

It's funny. Instead of "why did you do this and that...?" it's "you made a mistake there". Which is just not how one goes about things.

Right, which is why I never said it was a mistake. That's what you translated it to in your head. I just suggested that there was a more clear way to present those controls. Mod matrix makes sense, but if there are technical issues that prevent it, then that's that. I still think there could be things done to make the functionality more evident, but since we both don't see the point in it, I'll shut up.

[AnX]

I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.

Im sure there are. A bucket is a bucket.

[Teksonik]

Yes but does it sound like A Moog bucket ?

[murnau]

You need a reality check man...

Best advice so far. Only money can't buy.Guess the air must be thin up at the hills?!

[Urs]

Right, which is why I never said it was a mistake. That's what you translated it to in your head. I just suggested that there was a more clear way to present those controls. Mod matrix makes sense, but if there are technical issues that prevent it, then that's that. I still think there could be things done to make the functionality more evident, but since we both don't see the point in it, I'll shut up.

After re-reading your initial comments on UI design I think you're right - you didn't say there was a mistake per se, you pointed out inconsistencies in the original design of Diva, many of which have been addressed in the 1.4 update.

I did find posting a screenshot of a design I'd normally just about offensive, perhaps it wasn't meant that way.

[mcnoone]

I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.

Im sure there are. A bucket is a bucket.

Just as I thought. Another making generalized criticisms without the details required to back it up.
Look at it this way. If you actually can reveal these "counter creative" features, at least Urs will take it into consideration with some future update. Can't say that about many other companies making music software. So why not just throw them out there, so as to help U-he improve their products so they can make a better synth?

[AnX]

I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.

Im sure there are. A bucket is a bucket.

Just as I thought. Another making generalized criticisms without the details required to back it up.
Look at this way. If you actually can reveal these "counter creative" features, at least Urs will take it into consideration with some future update. Can't say that about many other companies making music software. So why not just throw them out there, so as to help U-he improve their products so they can make a better synth?

Already have in earlier posts, tho i dont see its any of your concern, troll.

[sqigls]

wow this is getting a bit brutal guys.

chill out a bit huh? Diva is supposed to be about HAPPY, MAGICAL times.
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!??!!

[mcnoone]

I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.

Im sure there are. A bucket is a bucket.

Just as I thought. Another making generalized criticisms without the details required to back it up.
Look at this way. If you actually can reveal these "counter creative" features, at least Urs will take it into consideration with some future update. Can't say that about many other companies making music software. So why not just throw them out there, so as to help U-he improve their products so they can make a better synth?

Already have in earlier posts, tho i dont see its any of your concern, troll.

No you didn't. You posted one short obscure and generalized sprinkle of adjectives that you did not connect to anything specific. You just labeled all U-he products as unconventional, yet all of them are different in almost every way. Workflow? What does that even mean, besides being a weak excuse that can be applied to all synths. For a good workflow, it only needs to open and play the intended sound correctly. So there goes that lame adjective out the window.
So you don't like the mod grid in Diva? Great. There is something specific. Yet it is specific only to Diva, and most U-he synths don't have that kind of feature, so that criticism you can't apply to all U-he synths.
As far as unconventional goes. This is simply an unspecific generalization with no actual true specific criticism given. If you can't be specific, then don't even bother posting such nonsense, or prepare to be called out on your hollow criticisms.

[AnX]

I know there are people that can be creative using a bucket.

Im sure there are. A bucket is a bucket.

Just as I thought. Another making generalized criticisms without the details required to back it up.
Look at this way. If you actually can reveal these "counter creative" features, at least Urs will take it into consideration with some future update. Can't say that about many other companies making music software. So why not just throw them out there, so as to help U-he improve their products so they can make a better synth?

Already have in earlier posts, tho i dont see its any of your concern, troll.

No you didn't. You posted one short obscure and generalized sprinkle of adjectives that you did not connect to anything specific. You just labeled all U-he products as unconventional, yet all of them are different in almost every way. Workflow? What does that even mean, besides being a weak excuse that can be applied to all synths. For a good workflow, it only needs to open and play the intended sound correctly. So there goes that lame adjective out the window.
So you don't like the mod grid in Diva? Great. There is something specific. Yet it is specific only to Diva, and most U-he synths don't have that kind of feature, so that criticism you can't apply to all U-he synths.
As far as unconventional goes. This is simply an unspecific generalization with no actual true specific criticism given. If you can't be specific, then don't even bother posting such nonsense, or prepare to be called out on your hollow criticisms.

Well done on listing some of them, shows you're paying some attention, but again, i dont see its any of your concern.

[AnX]

Workflow? What does that even mean, besides being a weak excuse that can be applied to all synths.

If you dont know what it means, you're not qualified to answer.

For a good workflow, it only needs to open and play the intended sound correctly. So there goes that lame adjective out the window.

Yes, cos thats all ppl do, open and play....your lack of understanding has no limit

So you don't like the mod grid in Diva? Great. There is something specific. Yet it is specific only to Diva, and most U-he synths don't have that kind of feature, so that criticism you can't apply to all U-he synths.

Never said it did.

If you can't be specific, then don't even bother posting such nonsense, or prepare to be called out on your hollow criticisms.

So you must be A : a Uhe employee or B: a forum mod... No? keep your nose out then, it doesnt concern you, troll.

[BasariStudios]

No? keep your nose out then, it doesnt concern you, troll.

I don't wanna start another one now...but...history tells us, when someone uses this
as an argument it means that person actually has NO argument at all...its the last line
of defense...,,hey, i don't know what else to say so stay out of my business''.
This is a public forum and EVERYONE has business and concern in what i or you have to
say...we can not pick and choose who will reply to us or who will not like or comments
no matter how wrong that comment is or how much we do not like it.

[sqigls]

somebody lock this garbage