Possible to send audio between MUX plugin instances, circumventing DAW?

[Hanz Meyzer]

Hi,

is it possible to route audio in-between multiple MUX vst plugin instances, circumventing the DAW routing? Just like DDMF send it utility? I ask this, because my DAW sadly does not support side chaining / 3/4th vst audio input....

EDIT:
And 2nd question: How can I activate side chain input in the level compressor module? I mean, it seem to have 2x2 stereo inputs, but cannot find a related switch?

Thanks.

[pljones]

Hi,

There's no "back door" behind the host that MuX has. I guess audio sync wouldn't be a problem (so long as you limited it to the same host) but you'd need a virtual audio network protocol of some sort, with a discovery protocol over that network to find available instances, then a communications protocol to declare available endpoints plus the audio transport protocol to exchange audio. And the same for event and modulation.

See this thread for comments on side chaining.

-- Peter

[MuTools]

is it possible to route audio in-between multiple MUX vst plugin instances, circumventing the DAW routing? Just like DDMF send it utility? I ask this, because my DAW sadly does not support side chaining / 3/4th vst audio input....

I understand that would be a nice feature but i imagine it may also be tricky cause the MUX instances have no control over the order in which they are processed by the host.

And 2nd question: How can I activate side chain input in the level compressor module? I mean, it seem to have 2x2 stereo inputs, but cannot find a related switch?

The audio inputs and outputs at the top modular level are automatically mapped to the 2 stereo inputs and 4 stereo outputs of MUX VST. You don't need to do anything for that.

[Hanz Meyzer]

I understand that would be a nice feature but i imagine it may also be tricky cause the MUX instances have no control over the order in which they are processed by the host.

Hm, but couldn't this be quickly tested using test signals on instantiation? At least, the DDMF thing works AFAIK. Also the free fruity thing host modular, I think. So it's definitely possible, that's what I want to emphasize.

The audio inputs and outputs at the top modular level are automatically mapped to the 2 stereo inputs and 4 stereo outputs of MUX VST. You don't need to do anything for that.

Ah ok. But here, I mean within MuTools DAW. If I have two tone generators, and what to construct a side chain compressor signal flow - how to do that?

Thanks!

[solipsvs]

https://code.google.com/archive/p/wormhole2/

this might do it for you... free. probably not perfect tho.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Thanks for the help.

I now found those masses of helpful tutorial videos. I guess no question will stay unanswered now

[VariKusBrainZ]

Also have a look at Vstforx, can pipe audio and data between instances

Has lots of really nice modulation capabilities not found elsewhere

https://www.vstforx.de

[Taifunk]

Ah ok. But here, I mean within MuTools DAW. If I have two tone generators, and what to construct a side chain compressor signal flow - how to do that

take a look at the attached example,hope it helps.

[MuTools]

Attached is a very simple project that demonstrates side-chain compression.

This is how it works:

* The Level Compressor exports its 2nd audio input as an aux audio input for the rack.
This is done via the Level Compressor's (or any module with extra IO) context menu -> Setup Aux In/Out.
* The MuDrum kick now is also sent to that aux audio input. In this case this is done using a Send so the send level controls how much kick goes to the side-chain in, but you could also directly connect things in the project modular area.

If you mute the MuDrum kick rack, the side-chained compressor still works cause the send is pre-fader and muting a rack is done at the fader point, so the send to side-chain input keeps on sending audio.

Hope this clarifies things.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Thank you!