Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[EnGee]

I'm getting this next week! It is a must have at this price

No it's not.

Well, for me, yes it is.

It has really a good sound (especially bread and butter sounds). The GUI is fantastic with this nice resize. The simplicity of the design is great IMO and finally the CPU usage is low. What's to hate?!

Low CPU usage on a VA generally means low quality sound. In fact, I can think of no exceptions to this. I hate the sound of Sylenth, I can't believe that anyone likes it TBH. But then, there's this entire generation raised on EDM and really low quality distorted filter sweeps and I imagine that, to some people, mediocre filters are synonymous with a desirable sound.

I'm not sure that I would buy it at any price. I did try the demo, it's immediately hateable.

I don't know if Low CPU usage on a VA means low quality sound?! I have some VAs that IMO have a great sound with low cpu usage like Mono/Poly, MS-20, VAZ Modualr, Retrologue and Hive.

Anyway, it seems we have different tastes and different valuation for what is a good sound or not.

[ghettosynth]

I'm getting this next week! It is a must have at this price

No it's not.

Well, for me, yes it is.

It has really a good sound (especially bread and butter sounds). The GUI is fantastic with this nice resize. The simplicity of the design is great IMO and finally the CPU usage is low. What's to hate?!

Low CPU usage on a VA generally means low quality sound. In fact, I can think of no exceptions to this. I hate the sound of Sylenth, I can't believe that anyone likes it TBH. But then, there's this entire generation raised on EDM and really low quality distorted filter sweeps and I imagine that, to some people, mediocre filters are synonymous with a desirable sound.

I'm not sure that I would buy it at any price. I did try the demo, it's immediately hateable.

I don't know if Low CPU usage on a VA means low quality sound?! I have some VAs that IMO have a great sound with low cpu usage like Mono/Poly, MS-20, VAZ Modualr, Retrologue and Hive.

Yeah, we just don't see eye to eye on this. Retrologue is passable, but, not because it's filter is really great, but because it's really flexible. It's not a great filter. Hive is also ok, but not awesome, I attribute it's "okness" to Urs. I hate all of the Korg VA stuff and VAZ has always sucked. It was only amazing back in the day because we were surprised that it could be done at all.

Anyway, it seems we have different tastes and different valuation for what is a good sound or not.

We do. I'm looking for analog filters that sound like actual analog filters. Not that all synths have to have that. FM8 sounds great and it has a dog-shit filter, but, it's filter is adequate for the task. For me, if a synth is just a VA synth, it has to have a great filter. I only tolerate mediocre filters where they're either really flexible, like Retrologue and Vacuum2, or they are attached to otherwise interesting synths, like FM8, Absynth, Loom, I could go on, most synths really.

[Rational]

I really like the full edgy sound of Sylenth. I like Cyclop too. And unique. And Serum. And Vacuum Pro. And UltraMini. I'm an old school metal guy though, so anything too flat and liner bores my ears. I'm finally getting excited by the new synths like Serum and moving LFO sources. Anything to spice up the sound and give movement. Tantra sounds cool to my ear because of how it creates movement. In fact, I prefer a lot of samplers (gasps of horror I hear?) because they are samples of actual synths with movement in the signal. I like it phat. What can I say? Sylenth sounds fat to me. And has that edge too. Great synth in my book. Just overpriced for wayyyyyy too long now. Kudos to them for finally having a decent sale.

[Vatrox]

Guys, any feedback on this one?

"DON’T MISS OUT – AVAILABLE 24 HOURS ONLY
Black Octopus have gone merry mad, putting together a pack of such epic proportions it will make your bells jingle!
Seriously this bundle is so huge it includes over 14,500 sounds and samples for a very merry $15!!!
This 15 for $15 bundle includes 15 MEGA sound packs from Black Octopus Sound including thousands of drum samples, vocal samples, one-shots and hundreds of presets."

https://www.adsrsounds.com/product/wav- ... sic-files/

Did any of you get it, is it worth buying? I'm mostly interested in those MIDI files and Linguistics pack seems useful, not sure though - what do you think? Never really bothered with premade loops before, I might be better of just getting an AAS sound pack for this price

[chk071]

That's so cute innit, Lennar & the gang even making a snowy logo to promote their sale



At €83,4 should be within reach for a lot more users...

I'm getting this next week! It is a must have at this price

No it's not.

Well, for me, yes it is.

It has really a good sound (especially bread and butter sounds). The GUI is fantastic with this nice resize. The simplicity of the design is great IMO and finally the CPU usage is low. What's to hate?!

Low CPU usage on a VA generally means low quality sound. In fact, I can think of no exceptions to this. I hate the sound of Sylenth, I can't believe that anyone likes it TBH. But then, there's this entire generation raised on EDM and really low quality distorted filter sweeps and I imagine that, to some people, mediocre filters are synonymous with a desirable sound.

I'm not sure that I would buy it at any price. I did try the demo, it's immediately hateable.

Lol man. Looks like the industry did a good job to make you think that everything which doesn't murder a i7 sounds like heaven, and everything which doesn't does not. Fair enough if you don't like Sylenth1, each to his like, but arguing that everything which uses a lot of CPU sounds good per default is just . Spire used to use 3 times the CPU it does now, Diva was split in half in terms of CPU consumption. Should tell you something. Some (most?) synths aren't even circuit modelled, so there's no need to consume loads of CPU at all. And noone can tell me that synths which i do know aren't circuit modelled sound inferior. Of course, if you need the tiniest details of distortion, drift, noise, and all those analog imperfections, you pay a high price for all that smear.

[elxsound]

Sotto is relatively new, so I wouldn't expect a 50% off deal anytime soon. This is as cheap as it gets (so grab it while you can).

I really waned to pick it up, since it obviously complements Capriccio very well, but my budget/xmas budget is just not agreeing with me! Oh well... I imagine it'll be worth its weight at full price too!

I think you missed the part where I said I grabbed Sotto already. ha ha ha

I was thinking about the upcoming few days of sales left. If Grosso or Maximo goes on sale, eish!

Oh no, I saw! Even if I hadn't seen you mention that you own it... I pretty much assume you own every orchestral library!

I meant it for the other user that was on the fence because of the 40% off instead of 50% deal.

Anyway, nice freebie today and I'm hoping they bring back all their sales as on the 25th, because I might just grab it then.

[soundbylaura]

Sonokinetic definitely wins my award for Coolest/Most Fun Holiday Sales/Giveaways. Thanks Sonokinetic!

[paulbreeze]

Yes. And interestingly this one is newer than my version bought from them in 2011 (and downloaded just a few days before). This one is an NKX version and the older one are separate WAV files. This one also uses a newer version of kontakt ([4.2.3.4914] vs [4.2.4.5316]).

[rifftrax]

Guys, any feedback on this one?

"DON’T MISS OUT – AVAILABLE 24 HOURS ONLY
Black Octopus have gone merry mad, putting together a pack of such epic proportions it will make your bells jingle!
Seriously this bundle is so huge it includes over 14,500 sounds and samples for a very merry $15!!!
This 15 for $15 bundle includes 15 MEGA sound packs from Black Octopus Sound including thousands of drum samples, vocal samples, one-shots and hundreds of presets."

https://www.adsrsounds.com/product/wav- ... sic-files/

Did any of you get it, is it worth buying? I'm mostly interested in those MIDI files and Linguistics pack seems useful, not sure though - what do you think? Never really bothered with premade loops before, I might be better of just getting an AAS sound pack for this price

Just bought will update....

[mladi]

Sonokinetic definitely wins my award for Coolest/Most Fun Holiday Sales/Giveaways. Thanks Sonokinetic!

1+

And another free one: EMP Mark II..

[2busdriver]

Anyone have a tip on how to get a deal on Kontakt 5 Full ?
Or Vienna Ensemble ?

[elxsound]

Anyone have a tip on how to get a deal on Kontakt 5 Full ?
Or Vienna Ensemble ?

I believe this will get you a free Kontakt player library here: http://de-de.sennheiser.com/drummica

That will qualify you for a crossgrade discount from the player version, to the full version of Kontakt.

[dzilizzi]

Sotto is relatively new, so I wouldn't expect a 50% off deal anytime soon. This is as cheap as it gets (so grab it while you can).

I really waned to pick it up, since it obviously complements Capriccio very well, but my budget/xmas budget is just not agreeing with me! Oh well... I imagine it'll be worth its weight at full price too!

I think you missed the part where I said I grabbed Sotto already. ha ha ha

I was thinking about the upcoming few days of sales left. If Grosso or Maximo goes on sale, eish!

Oh no, I saw! Even if I hadn't seen you mention that you own it... I pretty much assume you own every orchestral library!

I meant it for the other user that was on the fence because of the 40% off instead of 50% deal.

Anyway, nice freebie today and I'm hoping they bring back all their sales as on the 25th, because I might just grab it then.

I ended up getting Sotto, thanks

Doesn't seem like there is a limit to the the number of freebies for this new one.

Of course, I can't really do anything with it since I have to send my music computer in for repairs. Something went wrong with the connection to the second drive that has my Kontakt libraries. I guess I can use it until they send the box. I was going to try to fix it myself, but it is still under warranty and if it's the motherboard, I'd rather have them do it.

[ghettosynth]

, but arguing that everything which uses a lot of CPU sounds good per default is just .

That is a classic logical fallacy, it's called affirming the consequent, good job. I never said that, what I said was that VAs that sound good don't have low CPU usage, or, the contrapositive, which is always equivalent, VAs that don't use CPU don't sound good. That doesn't mean that using a lot of CPU means that something sounds good. Additionally, this is specific to VAs which are much more dependent on the filter quality for the essence of their synthesis than other types of synths.

As I said, I know of no exception. I do use VAs with lesser filters. and I like a lot of simple sampled synths, like Rhythm Robot's stuff and Cassetto by HGSounds. But, these synths are getting their character from the samples. They are still relying on Kontakt's filters, which, although better than many, are still relatively weak and outdated by today's standards. Synths like Sylenth, however, really stand out to me as being way overrated for what is basically a simple synth with a really weak filter. If it's a straightforward VA and their is nothing really unique about the architecture then it's not interesting to me unless it's a modern emulation, and that's going to use CPU.

You can tell yourself all day long that the industry has convinced me if that makes you feel better, but that's not the case.

[systmu]

What about op-x pro ii? that sounds pretty good and is low on cpu.