Anyone jumped ship / switched DAW this year?
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 21 Apr, 2008
I've already write about that in another topic: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=475038.jon wrote:Serious bugs? I've never encountered any kind of bug in Live yet. What kind of problems do you have with your setup?BadFormat wrote:Switched from Live Lite 9.7 to Cubase 9.
Live has some serious bugs on Windows, so I had no choice.
And you've replied to me (thanks for your help). Bug still exists and I can reproduce it on numerous PC.
Some guys have this bug too and they wrote about it on Ableton Forum. Also they told that Ableton AG confirmed that bug, but they can't tell when it's gonna be fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Right, that zoom bug not present on the majority of setups. What are the other "serious bugs"?
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 21 Apr, 2008
First of all I can tell that I can reproduce it on every PC that I've tried..jon wrote:Right, that zoom bug not present on the majority of setups. What are the other "serious bugs"?
Next bug is about consolidation audio time on some audio interfaces. On my Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen it takes 3 time longer than with same configuration hakintosh or my second Audient iD14 audio interface.
I'm just saying why I made a decision to switch DAW. Don't have any problems with my Cubase.
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- KVRian
- 716 posts since 22 Nov, 2016 from Tokyo, Japan
Do you mind explaining your typical workflow with Live? I suppose it works better for, well, live.zenophilix wrote: Live is great for unblocking creativity, it's incredibly easy to just open it up and start laying ideas down.
I usually compose in Guitar Pro, export full song to midi, import to cubase, and start throwing in the instruments, replacing guitars and basses with real recordings. I guess I could do the same in Live, but that's not the best way to use it, is it?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
How you use Live is up to what works best for you. Its very flexible, with great routing options. I find the session view excellent for quickly sketching out ideas and "scenes", before recording them onto the arrangement view. I like being able to switch between the 2 views to try out ideas before adding them to the final arrangement. I've never had an issue with finishing whole tracks in Live, and v9 has been solid as a rock on my Win 8.1 setup. Its pretty much my ideal DAW, and I won't be switching ...
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- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Usually I like to start with a basic beat, so I'll pick a tempo that suits the genre I want to do, then load up a blank drum rack and pick out some samples. Then I'll start with a simple kick snare pattern and add hats and cymbals, then add+remove kicks/snares as necessary. From there I'll start adding some synths, figure out my main chord progression, and get a melody going, EQing and filtering as I go to keep things from getting muddy. Once I have something I'm happy with, I'll either start adding new rows of clips in the mixer view to start getting a basic idea of an arragnement, or I'll record 8 bars of my loop onto the timeline.(i've heard that people like to dance to music with changes every 8 bars, so I like to incorporate that into most of my songs to keep them somewhat dance-able)shidostrife wrote:Do you mind explaining your typical workflow with Live? I suppose it works better for, well, live.zenophilix wrote: Live is great for unblocking creativity, it's incredibly easy to just open it up and start laying ideas down.
I usually compose in Guitar Pro, export full song to midi, import to cubase, and start throwing in the instruments, replacing guitars and basses with real recordings. I guess I could do the same in Live, but that's not the best way to use it, is it?
After that I start building out the arrangement and color coding everything to make it easier. Usually it takes me a week tops to put together a solid track, but then again I have been working with Live since I was 11 or 12.
There's no best way to use it, Live lends itself to multiple workflow styles. Importing a bunch of MIDI clips is a perfectly valid way to use it. It may be called Live and be designed for live use, but if it's gotten this popular in the electronic music market, then clearly they've made a very versatile DAW.Fixed.incubus wrote:Changed it to fit my preconceptions about Live, because if I can't finish anything, neither can you.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
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- KVRian
- 716 posts since 22 Nov, 2016 from Tokyo, Japan
I think I remember reading on SOS or somewhere else that Live's routing is somewhat unique. I gotta see and try it, then. Thanks for your insight!thecontrolcentre wrote:How you use Live is up to what works best for you. Its very flexible, with great routing options. I find the session view excellent for quickly sketching out ideas and "scenes", before recording them onto the arrangement view. I like being able to switch between the 2 views to try out ideas before adding them to the final arrangement. I've never had an issue with finishing whole tracks in Live, and v9 has been solid as a rock on my Win 8.1 setup. Its pretty much my ideal DAW, and I won't be switching ...
True, the scene view is one thing I found very interesting in Live and seems to be a great tool for writing. Thanks for sharing!zenophilix wrote:shidostrife wrote:zenophilix wrote: Usually I like to start with a basic beat, so I'll pick a tempo that suits the genre I want to do, then load up a blank drum rack and pick out some samples. Then I'll start with a simple kick snare pattern and add hats and cymbals, then add+remove kicks/snares as necessary. From there I'll start adding some synths, figure out my main chord progression, and get a melody going, EQing and filtering as I go to keep things from getting muddy. Once I have something I'm happy with, I'll either start adding new rows of clips in the mixer view to start getting a basic idea of an arragnement, or I'll record 8 bars of my loop onto the timeline.(i've heard that people like to dance to music with changes every 8 bars, so I like to incorporate that into most of my songs to keep them somewhat dance-able)
After that I start building out the arrangement and color coding everything to make it easier. Usually it takes me a week tops to put together a solid track, but then again I have been working with Live since I was 11 or 12.
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
It's just a bit of a stretch to call those "serious bugs with Live on Windows" when the majority of users have never experienced them. I'm not claiming the issues you listed wouldn't be real, just saying that a serious bug would affect all or at least most users.BadFormat wrote:First of all I can tell that I can reproduce it on every PC that I've tried..jon wrote:Right, that zoom bug not present on the majority of setups. What are the other "serious bugs"?
Next bug is about consolidation audio time on some audio interfaces. On my Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen it takes 3 time longer than with same configuration hakintosh or my second Audient iD14 audio interface.
I'm just saying why I made a decision to switch DAW. Don't have any problems with my Cubase.
No program is ever bug-free, but I've yet to find any on Live, which I find pretty cool tbh. Anyway, it's all about finding the tool that works for you.
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- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
shidostrife wrote:True, the scene view is one thing I found very interesting in Live and seems to be a great tool for writing. Thanks for sharing!
When somebody does that, it's usually more irritating than funny.incubus wrote:It was just supposed to be funny.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
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- Banned
- 5357 posts since 7 May, 2015
But the good news is that it severs any/all relationships with that person knowing full well that they are not worth any further bother. CLICK!fedexnman wrote:Nah it was funny ....
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
I'm sure your blocked now LolZz..... Pretty weak really .... I don't post here much .... I thought this thread was a little interesting up until it turned into Ableton Live Fanboy Hour ....incubus wrote:But the good news is that it severs any/all relationships with that person knowing full well that they are not worth any further bother. CLICK!fedexnman wrote:Nah it was funny ....