The Legend vs repro-1

[Caine123]

how about repro-1 + Diva ;D

[wagtunes]

Five pages of opinions but no examples of either actually being used in music.

I'll have a whole library for Repro-1 done very soon. Actually, within the next 5 days or so. However, I won't be releasing it until February.

[Cinebient]

Here is a real crap and boring EDM style thing (i'm not a fan of EDM but i just tryed it here once again for fun).
It was rather for trying Repro-1, tweaked a few default patches and some own and then i added just 1-2 apple loops (just the kick and hats)
So not a real song here.
I just used 4-5 Repro-1's here (if i remember right....don't saved the "project").
I love Repro-1 for sound design and now i dived deeper i also get much better sounds out of it.
I will try to make a soundtrack/horror like thing with Repro-1 only soon.
In the meantime enjoy this crap.....
http://logamp.com/1164/music/tracks/11808

[martinjuenke]

And why are some people so keen to have poly mode with its Minimoog emulation? That's NOT authentic![/quote]
Want something that does everything? Get Reaktor 6.[/quote]
That's it!

[4damind]

Really I think both synths are amazing. Re the Legend, personally I never really 'got' the minimoog sound and always found the architecture too limited, so even with 4 voices of polyphony and unison after playing with the demo for an hour I was bored. BUT it sounded pretty much just like I remembered from my friends HW so yeah, really nice work from Synapse.

Maybe the Minimoog is a bit degraded to a bass synth this days. But The Legend allows us to use a "Minimoog" also for pads, pluck sounds etc and not only for simple lead sounds or arpeggios.

I use the Arturia Prophet 5 very often and also the Nord Lead (which is inspired by the Prophet 5). Repro-1 sounds without doubt very good but I have no usage for a monophonic synth. So... I know they working on a Prophet 5 and so I wait for the release of this baby.
(If I think out loud: I don't know if this was the best decision to release the Repro-1 and the same time working on a Repro-5? If many user thinking the same, they skipping the Repro-1...)

[zerocrossing]

Really I think both synths are amazing. Re the Legend, personally I never really 'got' the minimoog sound and always found the architecture too limited, so even with 4 voices of polyphony and unison after playing with the demo for an hour I was bored. BUT it sounded pretty much just like I remembered from my friends HW so yeah, really nice work from Synapse.

Maybe the Minimoog is a bit degraded to a bass synth this days. But The Legend allows us to use a "Minimoog" also for pads, pluck sounds etc and not only for simple lead sounds or arpeggios.

I use the Arturia Prophet 5 very often and also the Nord Lead (which is inspired by the Prophet 5). Repro-1 sounds without doubt very good but I have no usage for a monophonic synth. So... I know they working on a Prophet 5 and so I wait for the release of this baby.
(If I think out loud: I don't know if this was the best decision to release the Repro-1 and the same time working on a Repro-5? If many user thinking the same, they skipping the Repro-1...)

I don't think so. To make a 5 voice synth of the same sound quality, and still keep it in the realm of Repro-1's CPU usage is probably going to mean something's probably got to go. I doubt Urs is just "holding back" on optimizing Repro-1's resource use. Also, the Prophet 5 didn't have an arpeggiator or sequencer. The effects of Repro-1 seem to be as CPU hungry as they are great, so shaving those off might have to happen, or at least limiting their quality in some way.

Anyway, I've got no doubt that a Prophet 5 emulation from U-He would smoke Prophet V, but my guess is that it'll not have quite the detail, especially when doing the polymod stuff, that Repro-1 does. Arturia has also made noises alluding to the fact that they too are working on a new version of their Prophet V software. That could put U-He in a tricky place, depending on the quality of Arturia's next version. I think if Arturia didn't hamstring themselves by keeping to such low CPU levels they'd be able to put out a great emulation. We'll see, I guess. I also seem to remember that Urs mentioned that he might put Repro's filter into Diva at some point... I might be wrong about that but I could see that being a good way to go.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I don't think so. To make a 5 voice synth of the same sound quality, and still keep it in the realm of Repro-1's CPU usage is probably going to mean something's probably got to go. I doubt Urs is just "holding back" on optimizing Repro-1's resource use. Also, the Prophet 5 didn't have an arpeggiator or sequencer. The effects of Repro-1 seem to be as CPU hungry as they are great, so shaving those off might have to happen, or at least limiting their quality in some way.

Anyway, I've got no doubt that a Prophet 5 emulation from U-He would smoke Prophet V, but my guess is that it'll not have quite the detail, especially when doing the polymod stuff, that Repro-1 does. Arturia has also made noises alluding to the fact that they too are working on a new version of their Prophet V software. That could put U-He in a tricky place, depending on the quality of Arturia's next version. I think if Arturia didn't hamstring themselves by keeping to such low CPU levels they'd be able to put out a great emulation. We'll see, I guess. I also seem to remember that Urs mentioned that he might put Repro's filter into Diva at some point... I might be wrong about that but I could see that being a good way to go.

If you were following Urs' posts on the subject more closely you'd know this isn't the case. Sure, Prophet-5 is more voices but also a simpler modulation system with more sane ranges from what I remember. Also, the Prophet-5 emulation should be able to run on multiple cores compared to the single core only Repro-1. Or something...I'm sure he'll poop up yo explain better. He's good like that.

[4damind]

Arturia has also made noises alluding to the fact that they too are working on a new version of their Prophet V software. That could put U-He in a tricky place, depending on the quality of Arturia's next version. I think if Arturia didn't hamstring themselves by keeping to such low CPU levels they'd be able to put out a great emulation. We'll see, I guess. I also seem to remember that Urs mentioned that he might put Repro's filter into Diva at some point... I might be wrong about that but I could see that being a good way to go.

Oh, I don't know (or have missed it) that Arturia has something on their to-do list for an new version of the Prophet V. Nice, so we can expect a better Arturia Prophet V and a new Repro-5.
Good to know and for me it makes also more sense to wait for some of this releases (and skip the Repro-1).

[Examigan]

Five pages of opinions but no examples of either actually being used in music.

I'll have a whole library for Repro-1 done very soon. Actually, within the next 5 days or so. However, I won't be releasing it until February.

Isn't this spamming?

[Terrafractyl]

Really I think both synths are amazing. Re the Legend, personally I never really 'got' the minimoog sound and always found the architecture too limited, so even with 4 voices of polyphony and unison after playing with the demo for an hour I was bored. BUT it sounded pretty much just like I remembered from my friends HW so yeah, really nice work from Synapse.

Maybe the Minimoog is a bit degraded to a bass synth this days. But The Legend allows us to use a "Minimoog" also for pads, pluck sounds etc and not only for simple lead sounds or arpeggios.

I use the Arturia Prophet 5 very often and also the Nord Lead (which is inspired by the Prophet 5). Repro-1 sounds without doubt very good but I have no usage for a monophonic synth. So... I know they working on a Prophet 5 and so I wait for the release of this baby.
(If I think out loud: I don't know if this was the best decision to release the Repro-1 and the same time working on a Repro-5? If many user thinking the same, they skipping the Repro-1...)

Yeah but if you read my post you would have seen that I never liked the minimoog sound. Why would I bother with a synth that I don't like the sound of? Especially such a limited one.
On the other hand, I love the sound of Repro one and once again, I actually find it waaaaay less limiting for the kind of patches I make. Extended modulation ranges?? YES PLEASE
Everyone is different and has different uses for different synths.
I can't see why the Poly people can't understand that Repro1 is just not for them, and instead keep insisting that is inferior.

Both synths are GREAT!!!!

[Urs]

It took a long time to buy a pristine Prophet 5 second hand. I started looking after we released RePro-Alpha - after it became clear that we might get a problem releasing a monophonic synth. At the same time I was certain that a polyphonic version would have to sound exactly like a Prophet-5.

I found a really great sounding, collector grade P-5 about a month or two before we finished Repro-1, but it broke down and had to be repaired. We just so managed to figure out the VCO section but there wasn't enough time to wrap all of it into a poly model. We're slowly getting there...

[Teksonik]

It took a long time to buy a pristine Prophet 5 second hand.

You didn't happen to also buy a pristine Oberheim OB-8 did you ?

[Numanoid]

I found a really great sounding, collector grade P-5 about a month or two before we finished Repro-1, but it broke down and had to be repaired.

Would be a Rev 2 version then, as it is said to sound better than the "final version" that uses Curtis chips instead of SSMs.

there wasn't enough time to wrap all of it into a poly model. We're slowly getting there...

Well, you can always release an update for Repro-1 with the changes you see fit, can't you ?

[Examigan]

It would be cool if u-he started working on a synth that doesn't exist (instead of an emulation), but had many ideas
from other synths blended into it.

[Terrafractyl]

It would be cool if u-he started working on a synth that doesn't exist (instead of an emulation), but had many ideas
from other synths blended into it.

Zebra? Bazille? Filterscape? Hive? Actually even Diva fits that description