), and have not come across this, try some outstanding donationware:www.bustad.com
Check out Energize - it makes CDs loud.
Stunning Mastering
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Aberdeen, Scotland
Just in case not everyone is overwhelmed by the quality of FinalMix (surely not ), and have not come across this, try some outstanding donationware:
www.bustad.com
Check out Energize - it makes CDs loud.
), and have not come across this, try some outstanding donationware:www.bustad.com
Check out Energize - it makes CDs loud.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Thanks for the suggestion. I've had a look, and I will continue delving into FinalMix for a while yet.
On a side note, and a point I've made already-- surely people interested in mastering must realize that it takes more than clicking a few presets to test out FM's potential? It's like there's a bandwagon of FM haters, none of which have actually spent any quality time with the plugin.
Also, louder does not equal better. Often, it just means squashed dynamics and making your ears tired.
Greg
On a side note, and a point I've made already-- surely people interested in mastering must realize that it takes more than clicking a few presets to test out FM's potential? It's like there's a bandwagon of FM haters, none of which have actually spent any quality time with the plugin.
Also, louder does not equal better. Often, it just means squashed dynamics and making your ears tired.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 1718 posts since 3 Sep, 2003
I wonder what got this louder-is-better thing started in the first place. Sure, a certain amount of compression can spice up the sound and stuff but beyond that it just f**ks up the dynamics.
In 5 years we will all be listening to 3.5 minute long pitchmodulating square waves at -1 db, if the trend continues.
In 5 years we will all be listening to 3.5 minute long pitchmodulating square waves at -1 db, if the trend continues.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 196 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Aberdeen, Scotland
I totally agree - I am first to admit I have not given FM a chance. I would welcome some pointers as to how to use it properly...maybe it is just a case of experimenting.Lunch Money wrote:On a side note, and a point I've made already-- surely people interested in mastering must realize that it takes more than clicking a few presets to test out FM's potential?
Also, louder does not equal better. Often, it just means squashed dynamics and making your ears tired.
Greg
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- KVRist
- 300 posts since 11 Feb, 2003
look here: http://www.loudnessrace.net/Pukeweed wrote:I wonder what got this louder-is-better thing started in the first place. Sure, a certain amount of compression can spice up the sound and stuff but beyond that it just f**ks up the dynamics.
In 5 years we will all be listening to 3.5 minute long pitchmodulating square waves at -1 db, if the trend continues.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Interesting website, even if it's not an exhaustive source. In the splash page animated pic, I figure 1995 is about as squashed as I'd care for.
In the list of squashed CD's, it's finally a clue as to why I enjoy Audioslave (self-titled) and Californication (RHCP) but can't listen to the whole album front-to-back. OK, it's possible that some of the actual songs are culprits, but the squishiness doesn't help. I DO find I get 'tired' listening to Audioslave, and I made that observation before even considering that the compression might be partially to blame.
Greg
In the list of squashed CD's, it's finally a clue as to why I enjoy Audioslave (self-titled) and Californication (RHCP) but can't listen to the whole album front-to-back. OK, it's possible that some of the actual songs are culprits, but the squishiness doesn't help. I DO find I get 'tired' listening to Audioslave, and I made that observation before even considering that the compression might be partially to blame.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 1718 posts since 3 Sep, 2003
Very cool site. The guy articulates exactly what I was thinking.
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- KVRian
- 1413 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Inverness, Scotland
f**k! So THATS why Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is my fave album. And thats why in theory I love audioslave but can't be arsed listening to them!
Think I'll become a compression spotting twat!
Think I'll become a compression spotting twat!
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- KVRist
- 58 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Buried in the backyard.
Finally, I will have an audience for my music! It's hard being ahead of your time. It's also hard being a 4-armed man in a town of amputees, 'cause they're all jealous.Pukeweed wrote:In 5 years we will all be listening to 3.5 minute long pitchmodulating square waves at -1 db, if the trend continues.