Noiiz, the first online sample platform with unlimited downloads

[elxsound]

I only saw that it says "this week only" but is there an actual end date to the current offer?

I would like to procrastinate as long as possible too!

[Numanoid]

It seems to be a very good deal, but I think I'll skip.

I already own Nevo, and Dirty Modular is basically the only other product I want.

I got so much samples, either magware or free, on backlog that I have yet to be able to check out, I just gotta stop hoarding at point

[maschinelf]

Having seen their offers before (up 60% off sometimes) I doubt this is the last we'll see of the sub at this price. Still it was a very smart way to introduce people to the new model!

+1

I'm not going to buy this, but they certainly got my attention with how well this was marketed. Take note Bitwig team, you could learn a thing or two about how to pull off a subscription model here.

[ere2learn]

I only saw that it says "this week only" but is there an actual end date to the current offer?

I would like to procrastinate as long as possible too!

Just go to noiiz.com,there is a timer ticking down

[ghettosynth]

Having seen their offers before (up 60% off sometimes) I doubt this is the last we'll see of the sub at this price. Still it was a very smart way to introduce people to the new model!

+1

I'm not going to buy this, but they certainly got my attention with how well this was marketed. Take note Bitwig team, you could learn a thing or two about how to pull off a subscription model here.

In fairness though, some of us are not really interested in the subscription model. It's pretty easy to download 300 packs or so in a year's time and unless they introduce 300 more next year, there will be diminishing returns on the subscription value. Even if they do introduce 300 more, there is still diminishing returns as the value of new packs is rather low against an existing library. The last major purchase of samples that I did was when zero-g had their mega-group buy about four years ago.

The only reason that I'm even slightly interested in it is because I do still occasionally buy samples and this seems like a great value on an existing collection. I've payed about a third of that for more than one vocal pack before. It's the one thing that is really hard to fake and is often too much work to bring someone else in for the typical "sitting in my bedroom" electronic music producer.

It will be interesting if they can get enough players on board, who also agree to their existing terms such that it will entice people like me to buy in year after year. I probably do spend about $100 a year on samples if I'm honest.

[MikeCallon]

Same here .... this is a no brainer for me. I have a few of their packs already and they are truly excellent. The subscription also includes the sampler instruments in the packs and the promise of a 'coming soon' on presets as well .... this is less than the price of 2 Maschine expansion packs for heavens sake .... insane value

[Numanoid]

In fairness though, some of us are not really interested in the subscription model. It's pretty easy to download 300 packs or so in a year's time and unless they introduce 300 more next year

But not all are hoarders, some download just what they need.

I mean, I do not like EDM big room riffs, but had I signed up for the deal, I would download that kind of pack, just because I can, because I bought the sub, even though I'm never gonna use it

Not all users are like that

[ghettosynth]

In fairness though, some of us are not really interested in the subscription model. It's pretty easy to download 300 packs or so in a year's time and unless they introduce 300 more next year

But not all are hoarders, some download just what they need.

I mean, I do not like EDM big room riffs, but had I signed up for the deal, I would download that kind of pack, just because I can, because I bought the sub, even though I'm never gonna use it

Not all users are like that

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. My point is that it's a good value just for the stuff that I do buy, but, once I have everything that I need from them, it's going to be hard to keep the value coming. So replace 300 in my sentence above with any lower number that represents the kind of stuff that you use. My point in referencing the total amount was to point out that it isn't difficult, hence, any lower number would be, in fact, easier. If there were 10,000 packs I think that the challenge would be a different ball of wax.

Their vocal "pack" costs more than this subscription and I like the stuff that's in it. If I add to that the other kinds of things that I use it makes sense to grab the subscription for a year and repeat the algorithm for any newcomers that come along. But, once I have 12, or 24 vocal packs, I'm probably going to be tapped out of interest. I don't use THAT many samples like that. The ones that I use most came with other products, e.g., mainstage.

This is why I don't buy a lot of samples TBH, it's hard to justify their value, especially drum loops.

[Numanoid]

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. My point is that it's a good value just for the stuff that I do buy, but, once I have everything that I need from them, it's going to be hard to keep the value coming. So replace 300 in my sentence above with any lower number that represents the kind of stuff that you use. My point in referencing the total amount was to point out that it isn't difficult, hence, any lower number would be, in fact, easier. If there were 10,000 packs I think that the challenge would be a different ball of wax.

But is Noiize just going to be Samplephonic stuff, reading this they are gonna add new stuff continously from other brands too:

"new sounds are added every day from top brands like Samplephonics and sound designers like Richard Devine, meaning you’ll have a constant supply of fresh ideas to kickstart your productions with."

[ghettosynth]

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. My point is that it's a good value just for the stuff that I do buy, but, once I have everything that I need from them, it's going to be hard to keep the value coming. So replace 300 in my sentence above with any lower number that represents the kind of stuff that you use. My point in referencing the total amount was to point out that it isn't difficult, hence, any lower number would be, in fact, easier. If there were 10,000 packs I think that the challenge would be a different ball of wax.

But is Noiize just going to be Samplephonic stuff, reading this they are gonna add new stuff continously from other brands too:

"new sounds are added every day from top brands like Samplephonics and sound designers like Richard Devine, meaning you’ll have a constant supply of fresh ideas to kickstart your productions with."

I have that already, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to be as clear as I can about how I interpret the value. I have all of the freshness that I can use for the rest of my life from free samples and samples that come with other software. My last couple of albums were hugely inspired by sounds from the stuff that came with Izotope's Iris. I didn't have to pay any extra for that, they just came with Iris. I've also used the stuff that came with the giant library that was a bonus product with Cassetto.

That's the point that I'm trying to poorly make. That use case has virtually zero value to me. I'm not paying $90 a year to be inspired by ambient soundscapes and percussion loops, I don't need them, or at least I don't need to pay any more for them.

What I do pay for is things like Vocals, things like long drum recordings, e.g., loopLoft. Basically things that I think are a pain in the ass to get otherwise.

I also pay for really interesting instruments, e.g., SonicCouture, Rhythm Robot.

So talk is cheap, I'm not convinced that they're going to get everyone on board for a tiny slice of the $90 subscription price. It will end up being something like amazon's eBook stuff.

[maschinelf]

In fairness though, some of us are not really interested in the subscription model. It's pretty easy to download 300 packs or so in a year's time and unless they introduce 300 more next year, there will be diminishing returns on the subscription value. Even if they do introduce 300 more, there is still diminishing returns as the value of new packs is rather low against an existing library. The last major purchase of samples that I did was when zero-g had their mega-group buy about four years ago.

The only reason that I'm even slightly interested in it is because I do still occasionally buy samples and this seems like a great value on an existing collection. I've payed about a third of that for more than one vocal pack before. It's the one thing that is really hard to fake and is often too much work to bring someone else in for the typical "sitting in my bedroom" electronic music producer.

It will be interesting if they can get enough players on board, who also agree to their existing terms such that it will entice people like me to buy in year after year. I probably do spend about $100 a year on samples if I'm honest.

True, and it will be in interesting to see if they are able to add enough value by bringing in more contributors, and releasing enough quality content yearly. That's really the only way it will sustain. Whether one buys or not, they will have to wait and watch how it grows either way. But you get immediate access to a large library with a great introductory price, so they got that right. The people behind Noiiz must know all this, so they are banking on being able to provide enough quality content to justify renewing year to year.

The other thing is that once the year is over, you get to keep all the samples and dont need to worry about bug fixes etc. On a related note (sorry for dragging Bitwig into the conversation ), I think the way they did it would be criticized far less if they addressed bug fix updates in a satisfactory manner, which would not leave buyers with what could be a broken product at the end of their subscription period.

[MikeCallon]

True, and it will be in interesting to see if they are able to add enough value by bringing in more contributors, and releasing enough quality content yearly. That's really the only way it will sustain. Whether one buys or not, they will have to wait and watch how it grows either way. But you get immediate access to a large library with a great introductory price, so they got that right. The people behind Noiiz must know all this, so they are banking on being able to provide enough quality content to justify renewing year to year.

Couldn"t agree more .... $89 for their entire back catalog is insane ... whether long term this will continue to provide good value I guess time will only tell. But that decision is 12 months away ... for now I'm like a kid in a sweet shop

[Numanoid]

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. .

You lost me

If new stuff will be added from other vendors continously as the site claim, how do you know now what will show up in the future and what you will want of that?

[ghettosynth]

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. .

You lost me

If new stuff will be added from other vendors continously as the site claim, how do you know now what will show up in the future and what you will want of that?

Of course I don't. It's easy to do your own thing, it's not quite so easy to get other people on board and then have to split that subscription price with them. It's also not as easy to create new content at a pace that will not look pale by comparison to your existing library.

The really big point, however, is that the marginal value for new content decreases simply because there is already existing content. This no different than with plugins. There's a reason that I haven't really purchased many new samples since my zero-g group buy, I now have a bunch of samples so I don't really need a lot of new ones. There is a constant stream of free and uber cheap samples coming my way.

It might be a super bargain the first year, it might be a good bargain for another year. I have my doubts. We'll see.

[mgw38]

To be clear, I'm not either, but that's not my point. .

You lost me

If new stuff will be added from other vendors continously as the site claim, how do you know now what will show up in the future and what you will want of that?

Of course I don't. It's easy to do your own thing, it's not quite so easy to get other people on board and then have to split that subscription price with them. It's also not as easy to create new content at a pace that will not look pale by comparison to your existing library.

The really big point, however, is that the marginal value for new content decreases simply because there is already existing content. This no different than with plugins. There's a reason that I haven't really purchased many new samples since my zero-g group buy, I now have a bunch of samples so I don't really need a lot of new ones. There is a constant stream of free and uber cheap samples coming my way.

It might be a super bargain the first year, it might be a good bargain for another year. I have my doubts. We'll see.

Well, it is probably no secret that they are a heavily pirated developer. Switching from a business model based on selling content to a business model based on selling a service around said content might turn out to be an incredibly smart move.

I know that everybody is currently used to download samples and keep them on their sample drive. Me, too. But that does not have to be that way. I have not downloaded a single track since Spotify came along even though back then I was absolutely sure that this would never happen.