Realitone show off Hip Hop Creator at NAMM

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:You could just accept that someone feels your product, or at least what you shown in the demo, doesn't sound so hot. I agree with him. Maybe it's because I still see hip-hop as crate-digging, quirky, low-fi, swing-y etc, and not the tepid, straight, derivative sound that you showed in that youtube video
Fair enough, and I don't expect that everyone is going to fall in love with this. :D Like kb420, I like Pete Rock, too. EPMD, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, all that stuff.

But . . . that's 25 years ago. The days of crate-digging in hip hop are long behind us. I'm not saying it never happens anymore, or that a sample library of pseudo record samples wouldn't be a great idea, but that's not what hip hop is today. It's like if I released a rock library and people posted Buddy Holly songs to show what it should sound like. ;)

I don't mean for any of this to sound defensive, by the way. You're clearly a very thoughtful guy and I definitely don't consider your opinions as trolling. I just want to clarify what the library is about.
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funky lime wrote:It reminds me of Guitar Hero and the like, where anybody with an Xbox can be a rock star. Or Instagram, where anybody with a smartphone can be a professional photographer. Now anybody with a computer can be a hip hop producer. Of course, the "purists" know it's not genuine, but if the user is enjoying their experience? I suppose that's what's important. That, and sales figures, of course.

It seems self-parodying, which may work to its benefit. The demonstrator definitely keeps a sense of humor about it anyway. Of course the "pros" will scoff at this attempt to have technology "replace" them.

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You pretty much nailed what I'm going for here, plus I love that comic.

One thing I learned with Realivox Blue is that a lot of people buy this stuff mostly just to have fun. That's not to say they don't take their music seriously, because they do. But a lot of people don't know any singers, or maybe they don't own a mic and preamp, or maybe they're just shy around women. So even though Blue has limitations, they can finally put a singer on their song. In some instances, she sounds great. In other cases, maybe not so much. Either way, they can have fun doing it.

The significance of this is that my original aim for Blue was the professional market, not the amateur one. In fact, our first sales were primarily to film/TV composers who wanted ethereal vocals for their scores. She's been in lots of films, tv shows, commercials, and even as a background vocalist in records. But . . . I'd say people who "just want to have fun" make up the majority of our customers now.

It's the same idea as when I did RealiBanjo. I sampled my banjo, but when I finished, I realized, "Okay, now I can play the notes on a keyboard . . . but what the heck would a banjo player play???" So I put patterns in it, and in the same way I joked that Hip Hop Creator is "Hip Hop for Dummies," some may recall I said the same thing with RealiBanjo. (And yes, I did get a few angry remarks from equally humorless bluegrass fans.)

With Hip Hop Creator, I'm obviously aiming at a market where people may not be experts in how to make a hip hop track. This could be a kid in Nebraska who wants to make original tracks (as opposed to dragging the same loops everybody else uses from Garage Band) to rap over. Or it could be a film composer who needs to write a hip hop cue and sees this as the easiest way to bang one out. Or it could be someone who's producing an atmospheric track or a rock track or a even a country track, and wants to add a few hip hop elements to it.

Or, believe it or not, it could be a guy who really does do hip hop for a living. Will he take one of our preset combinations and call it a song? Of course not. But there might be a percussion loop he finds interesting. Or a piano part. Or one of our vocal samples. Or the collection of drum samples for that matter, since (at the risk of sounding like a salesman) I don't think there's anything since Stylus RMX that is as comprehensive and easy.

I decided to make this instrument for a couple reasons. First, I really do have a lot of hip hop experience, so making the sounds was pretty easy, plus it's been fun. Then, since I already made RealiDrums (rhythmic pattern player) as well as RealiBanjo and Fingerpick (chordal pattern player), making the pattern player work for Hip Hop Creator was pretty easy. Soooo . . . why not? :D
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More power to you Mike.

To me it looks like a RealiDrums for hiphop. Which is fantastic.

I think all of Realitone's products are great and bring something new to the table. And yes, the patterns give them that edge.

So, any plans for a Realibass with patterns :) ?

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I'm still waiting for RealiCowbell. And then the follow-up, RealiMoreCowbell.

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garryknight wrote:I'm still waiting for RealiCowbell. And then the follow-up, RealiMoreCowbell.
:lol:

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This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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garryknight wrote:I'm still waiting for RealiCowbell. And then the follow-up, RealiMoreCowbell.
Its there. Check out Realidrums. Cowbell with patterns :D

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As a triangle virtuoso I think the cowbell gets enough attention already. Where's the love for us?

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Realitone show off Deep Sampled David Guetta Piano

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The full version will have five keys.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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Aloysius wrote:Realitone show off Deep Sampled David Guetta Piano

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The full version will have five keys.
See, I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.

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Aloysius wrote:Realitone show off Deep Sampled David Guetta Piano

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This! And get special MS keyboard for optimizing your DAW workflow.

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So true.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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sprnva wrote:As a triangle virtuoso I think the cowbell gets enough attention already. Where's the love for us?
Love triangles? Wrong forum, maybe... :wink:

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Mike Greene wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:You could just accept that someone feels your product, or at least what you shown in the demo, doesn't sound so hot. I agree with him. Maybe it's because I still see hip-hop as crate-digging, quirky, low-fi, swing-y etc, and not the tepid, straight, derivative sound that you showed in that youtube video
Fair enough, and I don't expect that everyone is going to fall in love with this. :D Like kb420, I like Pete Rock, too. EPMD, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, all that stuff.

But . . . that's 25 years ago. The days of crate-digging in hip hop are long behind us. I'm not saying it never happens anymore, or that a sample library of pseudo record samples wouldn't be a great idea, but that's not what hip hop is today. It's like if I released a rock library and people posted Buddy Holly songs to show what it should sound like. ;)

I don't mean for any of this to sound defensive, by the way. You're clearly a very thoughtful guy and I definitely don't consider your opinions as trolling. I just want to clarify what the library is about.
Those days are done except for those that can afford to pay licensing fees for used samples. :hihi:

But yes, it has changed drastically from 25 years ago and in many ways is merging with the many various EDM styles.

Interesting product.... Not for me, but it does look like it was put together extremely well, so congrats on that!

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Crate Diggin' is definitely not Dead...
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trusampler wrote:Crate Diggin' is definitely not Dead...
Not dead but it's not what it used to be either.

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