Anything new coming to HIVE soon?

[knowix]

Wait, wait, wait a second here.... are we talking about giving HIVE additive oscillators? Cause that would blow my mind. boom.

I don't think adding something utterly complicated to Hive would be a wise thing to do.

I'm just toying with the idea of adding a few waveforms that are based on complex approaches but are otherwise used with the same set of controls as the standard waveforms. That is, I don't think I would like to add any editors which would double size the user manual.

I was trying to test out my notion that, with modulatable phase and detune control over a bank of oscillators, Hive could already work as a quasi additive synth. The results were unlistenable gunge

I suppose you've got to get the maths just right for additive synthesis to work. But I still think Hive has enough things going on in its current architecture that spicing up the waveform area would require only minor tweaks.

[Dasheesh]

what I want is the feature set of Spire with the performance, reliability, and sound of Hive. I guess that's some kind of impossible task for developers though.

[Sleepwalker]

We'll see... I'm quite hungry for some Hive development, maybe we can leverage some of the things we're doing for Zebra3 by packaging them into a more accessible and immediate interface for Hive.

Aiaiai! Thats the best if/maybe ive read in years around here.

This ^^ in just one sentense describe my future favorite type of synth.

Massive, Surge, (and Hive) style one page one click assigne gui with a good chunk of the Zebra sound engine.

[knowix]

I got the impression that the new Hive gui won't have both sides of the synth on the one page. To prevent giving the false impression of overcomplexity or fiddliness.

But I've come to the conclusion that I don't like the tabbed design of Sylenth. But I'm also not sure if that's a rational dislike.

I don't imagine there's an easy way to make the GUI of Hive to expand bigger to show the 2nd oscillator and filter. It certainly doesn't seem to be a common approach in plugins.

[Urs]

I got the impression that the new Hive gui won't have both sides of the synth on the one page. To prevent giving the false impression of overcomplexity or fiddliness.

But I've come to the conclusion that I don't like the tabbed design of Sylenth. But I'm also not sure if that's a rational dislike.

I don't imagine there's an easy way to make the GUI of Hive to expand bigger to show the 2nd oscillator and filter. It certainly doesn't seem to be a common approach in plugins.

I don't think we're going for a largely tabbed UI. There was talk however to see whether or not it's possible to have both options in a single UI.

I would insist though that a both-parts-on-one-page is a preferable paradigm.

[Howard]

+1 for everything on one page - I don't see a reason to do otherwise, as Hive is relatively simple.

[twal]

I know Hive is the "easy" synth, but for some reason I feel something really special is coming to Hive that separates it from a lot of other synths making it really unique.... hmm....

[recursive one]

Some things which could make Hive interesting enough for me to buy.

- basic cross-oscillator FM (may be disabled when the oscillator has unison for CPU reasons)
- morphable oscillator (from saw to a complex waveform, and a selection of such waveforms, e.g., generated additively)
- global unison with controllable stereo spread
- vowel filter
- better distortions
- oscillator sync

[padillac]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

[Aiynzahev]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

[fourthmanfire]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

A "direct out" feature a la Serum.

[padillac]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

A "direct out" feature a la Serum.

I haven't used Serum yet so I don't know... I've always wished Zebra had multiple outs, one for each lane or something.

But with Hive being the simple synth, I'd be happy with just having sub-oscillators able to bypass the effects.

[Maykie]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

Why not just layer two instances ? I know it takes more time but gives endless possibilties. You want independent fx chain anyway.

Lets ask Urs for something that actually opens new possibilities

[TheCatBurglar]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

Yes please!

[padillac]

I want to route the sub oscillators to bypass the effects, that way I could make a solid sub bass layer, and use the effects chain to make a crazy mid range sound.

Me too

Why not just layer two instances ? I know it takes more time but gives endless possibilties. You want independent fx chain anyway.

Lets ask Urs for something that actually opens new possibilities

Because then it's not simple. If I want to change an envelope or a modulation; I have to do it in two instances.

Route main oscillators to effects and sub oscillators past them DOES open new possibilities - it's something you can't do with Hive today. Solid mono sub and a nice chorused mid-range, coming out of one fast, easy to use synth.

The solution for today of course is pretty simple too - use Zebra, where this routing is already possible.

No, "just later two instances of Hive" is not the solution, given Hive's design intention.