Exponential Audio R4
- KVRAF
- 6279 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I've compared R4 to a number of my other reverbs. R4 sounds nice but I just can't justify the $150 NFR price. and I can't justify the $300 non-NFR price. I would love to add R4 to my reverb toolkit but not with those prices. I *might* have considered it at $150 non-NFR but even still... the thing that I like about it compared to my other premium reverbs is the lower CPU load. In terms of sound, it's nice but not light years ahead of, say, 2caudio. I'd probably have jumped if it wasn't NFR.don1thedon wrote:For = Simply stunning sound
Against = Such a dumb upgrade policy (NFR) as previously mentioned.
At $150 that makes it a really tough call even for my GAS!
Hmm what to do?
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- KVRAF
- 35672 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Hm, thought i had replied on this... thanks for that, always nice to be able to compare different reverbs. Even though the breaks between the examples are a bit long, so, at least for me, the ear's "memory" is already a bit foggy.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Indeed. Great video! One thing that really stood out to me though is how much I loved Spat at the end. I have Verb3, which I also love, but not Spat, do you have any thoughts on these two? Of course, I could demo them but it wouldn't matter at the moment because the upgrade isn't on sale. I just want to build up some thoughts for when they're on sale.chk071 wrote:Hm, thought i had replied on this... thanks for that, always nice to be able to compare different reverbs. Even though the breaks between the examples are a bit long, so, at least for me, the ear's "memory" is already a bit foggy.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
If you use the links in the video dialog box, it takes you to the exact same section for each 'verbchk071 wrote:Hm, thought i had replied on this... thanks for that, always nice to be able to compare different reverbs. Even though the breaks between the examples are a bit long, so, at least for me, the ear's "memory" is already a bit foggy.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
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- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have to
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Yes. Even though I still buy a lot of verbs, I don't buy a lot of expensive verbs. I can really feel the usefulness in Verb3 and reverberate2, which is why I went with those this past season on the full sweep mixing/mastering tools upgrade.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have to
I have enough specialty verbs that I dismiss most. I demoed the Lexicon verbs and Pheonix and, while they're good, I just didn't feel that I could justify them, especially Pheonix.
Now adaptiverb, just waiting on the next sale.
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- KVRAF
- 35672 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Only have a couple of reverbs too... Eventide Blackhole and UltraReverb (LOVE the sound of the Eventide reverbs), TB-Reverb (very clean, very good sounding), the free TAL stuff, which is also quite good, and, when i use Spire, i also use its reverb, which IMO sounds nice. I really do think that you should invest a bit in a good sounding reverb though, especially when you're making reverb intensive music, like Ambient, or Trance music. Nothing worse than a quality sounding synth used with a bad reverb.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have to
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- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I agree on getting a good 'verb, but these days I reckon most of them are. Were I doing foley work, recording soloists etc, I think I'd be more picky, but as it is, I'm either looking to just hint at a space, or going full on into effect territory. Either way, I'm covered.chk071 wrote:Only have a couple of reverbs too... Eventide Blackhole and UltraReverb (LOVE the sound of the Eventide reverbs), TB-Reverb (very clean, very good sounding), the free TAL stuff, which is also quite good, and, when i use Spire, i also use its reverb, which IMO sounds nice. I really do think that you should invest a bit in a good sounding reverb though, especially when you're making reverb intensive music, like Ambient, or Trance music. Nothing worse than a quality sounding synth used with a bad reverb.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have toEspecially as they're all so different, IMO, it makes sense to demo a lot, and see what works for you. With most of the free 'verbs, i often found that they sound very metallic, muffled, and not "pristine", and you just can't get rid of that character.
It's actually taken me a long time to get over my aversion to using reverbs, other than those that are baked into the synth sounds I might be using. Too many years of band rehearsals in school/church halls just wishing that we were in a much 'tighter' space, so the last thing I am interested is drowning sounds in 'random' halls
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Ultrareverb was a pleasant surprise. It's like a reverb toolkit. I also think that Stereo Room is useful, especially since it was free.chk071 wrote:Only have a couple of reverbs too... Eventide Blackhole and UltraReverb (LOVE the sound of the Eventide reverbs)el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have to
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- KVRAF
- 35672 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Really need to give that a go, i got it for free in that Focusrite offer, and installed it, but never really tried it... spoiled...ghettosynth wrote:Ultrareverb was a pleasant surprise. It's like a reverb toolkit. I also think that Stereo Room is useful, especially since it was free.chk071 wrote:Only have a couple of reverbs too... Eventide Blackhole and UltraReverb (LOVE the sound of the Eventide reverbs)el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:That video confirmed what I'd already suspected i.e I have no need for much more than a convolution, a decent algo, and some kind of shimmer 'verb. I have 'Space Designer', 'Vroom', 'VVV', and, 'Shimmer', and I already sometimes feel that 'Vroom' is surplus to requirements.plexuss wrote:Here's a video I made about year ago, when I only had 30.chk071 wrote:I found out that it is very useful to have the right reverb for the right usage case (vocals, percussions, pads). I couldn't imagine owning 40 different reverbs though. Don't think i could manage that.plexuss wrote: That's why I own about 40 different reverbs. I am very moody.I know it's not the best video for this but it does catalogue the sound of these 30 reverbs.
you've spent a lot of money so that the rest of us might not have to
- KVRian
- 1142 posts since 31 Dec, 2006 from the hills above beautiful Boise, Idaho
I just did a head to head with R4, B2, and several other of my favorite reverbs. I am a reverb junkie and own a majority of the higher-end software reverbs. I am always on the lookout for a software reverb that will curtail my lust for a Bracasti M7. R4 has officially come the closest to making me want to put to rest my temptation to spend thousands of dollars for a Bricasti. I absolutely LOVE the R4 and it will be replacing B2 as my go-to reverb on the new album I just started writing. I will still use some Adaptiverb and Altiverb in certain situations, but R4 sounds like reverb heaven to my ears. Awesome job Exponential Audio! 
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- KVRAF
- 16740 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Do you have Verb3?quantum7 wrote:I just did a head to head with R4, B2, and several other of my favorite reverbs. I am a reverb junkie a majority of the higher-end software reverbs and am always on the lookout for a software reverb that will curtail my lust for a Bracasti M7. R4 has officially come the closest to making me want to put to rest my temptation to spend thousands of dollars for a Bricasti. I absolutely LOVE the R4 and it will be replacing B2 as my go-to reverb on the new album I just started writing. I will use some Adaptiverb is certain situations, but R4 sounds like reverb heaven to my ears. Awesome job Exponential Audio!
- KVRian
- 1142 posts since 31 Dec, 2006 from the hills above beautiful Boise, Idaho
Verb3?ghettosynth wrote:Do you have Verb3?quantum7 wrote:I just did a head to head with R4, B2, and several other of my favorite reverbs. I am a reverb junkie a majority of the higher-end software reverbs and am always on the lookout for a software reverb that will curtail my lust for a Bracasti M7. R4 has officially come the closest to making me want to put to rest my temptation to spend thousands of dollars for a Bricasti. I absolutely LOVE the R4 and it will be replacing B2 as my go-to reverb on the new album I just started writing. I will use some Adaptiverb is certain situations, but R4 sounds like reverb heaven to my ears. Awesome job Exponential Audio!
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