Soundcloud is running out of cash
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- KVRAF
- 16742 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I like hearthis.at, so dorky, and nobody's on it so I regularly "chart." LOL!highkoo wrote:An investor will show up, because SC is still the hub.
Until there is a close competitor, it will remain, because it somehow maintains its "potential" to be something more than it is.
FYI,
hearthis.at has an 'auto-import' feature for your SC profile....
Nevermind. Just realized that it just imports the Soundcloud stream, even if you have downloads enabled. Boo.
I'll use it for free until my 10K listens have been used up some five years or so from now.
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Touch The Universe Touch The Universe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=190615
- KVRAF
- 5841 posts since 2 Oct, 2008
Anyone else not renew there subscription? I got tired of all the fake listeners and unwanted solicitation from random beautiful women to join nude chatrooms through pm and track comments
They came in the dozens whenever a new song is uploaded, not to mention the buy more plays fake accounts garbage. They need to sort that out first and not worry about more investors. It is just ridiculous.
Also how much money do you need to run an audio cloud site? 70 million a year
Also how much money do you need to run an audio cloud site? 70 million a year
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- KVRAF
- 1986 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC
yes...i had a subscription and didnt renew because they changed their functionality. they made it "better" for listeners and crap for artists. i dont know who they thought was buying subscriptions from them.Touch The Universe wrote:Anyone else not renew there subscription? I got tired of all the fake listeners and unwanted solicitation from random beautiful women to join nude chatrooms through pm and track commentsThey came in the dozens whenever a new song is uploaded, not to mention the buy more plays fake accounts garbage. They need to sort that out first and not worry about more investors. It is just ridiculous.
Also how much money do you need to run an audio cloud site? 70 million a year
- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Soundcloud wanted to bring more listeners... to all these wannabe artists posting their stems? This is futile effort 
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
- KVRAF
- 3362 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Their iOS app used to be usable. For the past couple years it's been a complete piece of shit. The search engine sucks beyond all belief, the tagging is useless, and comments were crippled.
I hope they die.
I hope they die.
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 24 Apr, 2010
I only go on it to download free plugins and there aren't many of them and there is always some music playing and it is always too loud and I can't find the volume and, and, and I wish I could find the volume control. Other than that, it's brill. And I never knew you had to pay.
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
I've seen this story again and again for years now. It pops up in the music press like clockwork. Here's one from 2014: https://thump.vice.com/en_uk/article/wi ... -than-ever
I'm astonished it's still with us to be honest. Start-ups often lose a lot of money in the early days, but Soundcloud has been around for 10 years now and still hasn't found a business model that works.
There are a lot of things I don't like about Soundcloud - 128k MP3 is just a joke for a platform dedicated to audio streaming. Youtube's audio quality is significantly better (even after they gimped the HD audio 2 or so years back), its stats make Soundcloud's look like a joke, and it's free. I stick with Soundcloud because it makes following unsigned artists I like (and indeed keeping me in touch with unsigned artists who like me) so easy, and IMO they really need to focus on those networks of musicians rather than the listeners. Trying to unseat Spotify (paid) and Youtube (free) as the de-facto listening platforms for the masses is a fool's errand. Less choice than both, significantly poorer audio quality than both... I mean come on.
I'm astonished it's still with us to be honest. Start-ups often lose a lot of money in the early days, but Soundcloud has been around for 10 years now and still hasn't found a business model that works.
There are a lot of things I don't like about Soundcloud - 128k MP3 is just a joke for a platform dedicated to audio streaming. Youtube's audio quality is significantly better (even after they gimped the HD audio 2 or so years back), its stats make Soundcloud's look like a joke, and it's free. I stick with Soundcloud because it makes following unsigned artists I like (and indeed keeping me in touch with unsigned artists who like me) so easy, and IMO they really need to focus on those networks of musicians rather than the listeners. Trying to unseat Spotify (paid) and Youtube (free) as the de-facto listening platforms for the masses is a fool's errand. Less choice than both, significantly poorer audio quality than both... I mean come on.
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- KVRAF
- 1729 posts since 26 Feb, 2008
They didn't hire me when I applied for a PM job so f**k them. 
Honestly though, these morons have offices in Berlin, London, New York City, and San Francisco. What kind of logistical fuckery would mean that doing such a thing makes any level of financial sense? And they still have like 30 job openings posted while they are bleeding cash? Even funnier... they have a "Head of Reward and People Operations" position showing. What kind of incredibly pretentious bullshit could that even possibly mean in terms of job duties?
Doesn't take a genius to realize some dipshit is making a boatload of stupid decisions there. I mean just look at this f**king medium post from an employee:
https://medium.com/@SoundCloud/six-year ... .hhq9zeroy
That is some epic-grade self-absorbed no-longer-living-in-reality circle-jerk blathering.
Honestly though, these morons have offices in Berlin, London, New York City, and San Francisco. What kind of logistical fuckery would mean that doing such a thing makes any level of financial sense? And they still have like 30 job openings posted while they are bleeding cash? Even funnier... they have a "Head of Reward and People Operations" position showing. What kind of incredibly pretentious bullshit could that even possibly mean in terms of job duties?
Doesn't take a genius to realize some dipshit is making a boatload of stupid decisions there. I mean just look at this f**king medium post from an employee:
https://medium.com/@SoundCloud/six-year ... .hhq9zeroy
That is some epic-grade self-absorbed no-longer-living-in-reality circle-jerk blathering.
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- KVRAF
- 4801 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland
I bailed out, when they made the "improvements". Have they reached the late Myspace level of garbage saturation already?Touch The Universe wrote:Anyone else not renew there subscription?
- KVRAF
- 5440 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
A lot of cursing - I wonder why people are so mad for a company which offers them free services?
You don't have to use that.
Be mad for the Facebook or Google, which both are "free", too, but who sell your souls forward (which the Soundcloud don't do in that scale).
You don't have to use that.
Be mad for the Facebook or Google, which both are "free", too, but who sell your souls forward (which the Soundcloud don't do in that scale).
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- KVRAF
- 1729 posts since 26 Feb, 2008
For me it's more that companies like SoundCloud represent the stupid level of excess, general silliness, ostentatious brand management, and acute lack of any capacity to reach profitability without ridiculous seed hand-holding that so many tech companies absolutely reek of. Basically, the problem boils down to hiring a bunch of half-wit friends and hoity-toity holier-than-thou MBAs and analysts that results in the company eventually turning into a one big "we're the most amazing new-age sustainable entity" circle-jerk. I'm really tired of it because people no longer build companies to make genuinely useful products for consumers, they build companies to provide some asinine ego bounce-house for special snowflake employees to feel good about themselves in while they wipe their ass with hundred dollar bills from investors on the promise of some useless "platform" that may or may not ever define itself in terms of utility.Harry_HH wrote:A lot of cursing - I wonder why people are so mad for a company which offers them free services?
You don't have to use that.
Be mad for the Facebook or Google, which both are "free", too, but who sell your souls forward (which the Soundcloud don't do in that scale).
So yeah. f**k companies like that indeed. It's just the new money's version of old bullshit marketing.
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- KVRian
- 589 posts since 16 Jun, 2003
No sarcasm intended - that may be my favourite post ever on this forum. That one paragraph sums up modern tech companies perfectly for me. Thank you!rifftrax wrote:
For me it's more that companies like SoundCloud represent the stupid level of excess, general silliness, ostentatious brand management, and acute lack of any capacity to reach profitability without ridiculous seed hand-holding that so many tech companies absolutely reek of. Basically, the problem boils down to hiring a bunch of half-wit friends and hoity-toity holier-than-thou MBAs and analysts that results in the company eventually turning into a one big "we're the most amazing new-age sustainable entity" circle-jerk. I'm really tired of it because people no longer build companies to make genuinely useful products for consumers, they build companies to provide some asinine ego bounce-house for special snowflake employees to feel good about themselves in while they wipe their ass with hundred dollar bills from investors on the promise of some useless "platform" that may or may not ever define itself in terms of utility.
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