KVR Audio

cron · Post by **cron** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:08 pm

rifftrax wrote:
Harry_HH wrote:A lot of cursing - I wonder why people are so mad for a company which offers them free services?
You don't have to use that.
Be mad for the Facebook or Google, which both are "free", too, but who sell your souls forward (which the Soundcloud don't do in that scale).
For me it's more that companies like SoundCloud represent the stupid level of excess, general silliness, ostentatious brand management, and acute lack of any capacity to reach profitability without ridiculous seed hand-holding that so many tech companies absolutely reek of. Basically, the problem boils down to hiring a bunch of half-wit friends and hoity-toity holier-than-thou MBAs and analysts that results in the company eventually turning into a one big "we're the most amazing new-age sustainable entity" circle-jerk. I'm really tired of it because people no longer build companies to make genuinely useful products for consumers, they build companies to provide some asinine ego bounce-house for special snowflake employees to feel good about themselves in while they wipe their ass with hundred dollar bills from investors on the promise of some useless "platform" that may or may not ever define itself in terms of utility.

You're not wrong. The dot com bubble 2.0 is about to burst, and it won't be pretty.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:14 pm

I've heard the cries before, soundcloud is still there. But hey. Everything dies.

Anyway. This kind of sh!t is what will continue to happen to Humans as long as they keep wanking themselves off to their might-makes-right fallacies. Anybody in support of Human civilization as it is now (and has always been, probably) has no valid reason to complain about anything "unreasonable" I do anyway.

I like soundcloud well enough. Be a pity to see it go.

rifftrax · Post by **rifftrax** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:27 pm

Codestation wrote:I like soundcloud well enough. Be a pity to see it go.

Same here, I actually subscribe to their Go service but it shouldn't take $70 million a year to run a glorified streaming service that basically has zero other functions. You need what, a vanilla data-center, some level of sophisticated load-balancing programming, and basic ops management? Even then the streaming is actually relatively crappy. They don't even do the crux of what they are supposed to specialize in very well.

Sucking a investment/VC teat dry has turned into its own business profession these days. So many dipshits and charlatans out there... they've just all rebranded themselves as "business consultants" and silly c-suite names.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:53 pm

Hope they die.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:20 pm

incubus wrote:Hope they die.

come on incubus...dont tip toe around the subject...tell us how you really feel.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:23 pm

You're right, my apologies.

I want crushing death to them, with nukes, poisonous snakes, WOMD, and sharks with lazer beams.

nonnaci · Post by **nonnaci** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:37 pm

They provide free sound hosting. Not sure what's not to like. Someone enlighten me from my ignorance!

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:44 pm

the volume control is right there at the bottom of the page, has been for ages

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:47 pm

nonnaci wrote:They provide free sound hosting. Not sure what's not to like. Someone enlighten me from my ignorance!

They're popular. Everything popular has to die. Or so.

Also they used MP3 encoding. And we all know that this crushes the audio signal beyond all recognition. It's actually so bad that you will hardly be able to A/B, and distinguish analog from digital synths. They should be burned on the funeral pyre for that.

nonnaci · Post by **nonnaci** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:55 pm

chk071 wrote:They're popular. Everything popular has to die. Or so.

Also they used MP3 encoding. And we all know that this crushes the audio signal beyond all recognition. It's actually so bad that you will hardly be able to A/B, and distinguish analog from digital synths. They should be burned on the funeral pyre for that.

Is their mp3 bit-rate not high enough or is the problem one of removing masked time-freq signals as part of the encoding process?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:59 pm

I guess their bitrate isn't high enough for some people. I never had a problem with it though. I guess the main issue people have with it though is not the audio quality. Frankly, i never really get such things. I find Soundcloud is pretty awesome.

nonnaci · Post by **nonnaci** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:01 pm

chk071 wrote:I guess their bitrate isn't high enough for some people. I never had a problem with it though. I guess the main issue people have with it though is not the audio quality. Frankly, i never really get such things. I find Soundcloud is pretty awesome.

Yea, looked into a bit more. 128 kbps and 16kHz high-cut is heavy-handed for audiophiles.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:07 pm

I always thought it was 192 kb/s. 128 is a bit low indeed.

nonnaci · Post by **nonnaci** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:18 pm

chk071 wrote:

I always thought it was 192 kb/s. 128 is a bit low indeed.

Found a good comparison

http://en.stormymondays.com/2016/08/sou ... and-vimeo/

The difference in brightness is quite apparent between sound-cloud and Vimeo, especially when the bells start chiming.

Rappo Clappo · Post by **Rappo Clappo** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:21 pm

128 is for streaming, downloading is possible in the original format, I thought.

Soundcloud is running out of cash