Host rumors.....

[christianmusicmaker]

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headquest...were a friendly bunch over here honest

Host discussions eh? Where's AD80 he started this!

[AD80]

I really just wanted to give Jules some words of encouragement . Let him know we're down with T and think he's gonna come out with a killer app. And that a lot of competitors are gearing up for big stuff.

I dont know where you guys took it . It turned into a Cakewalk forum.

[Lunch Money]

Heh!

Well, my money's on T2 being better than T1. I'm not expecting miracles, but I do think it'll end up being well worth the extra dosh. And since I luvvers T1, I'm bound to flip for T2.

Greg

[AD80]

I'll pay anything for T2.

[headquest]

Sonar 4...unlikely to have this. If you do go for Sonar why not wait for version 4? You spoke of a good price for version 3 I would hold out for version 4, it will also give you more time to see what T2 may offer.

Very good advice. I set up the Sonar 3 demo again, and it's growing on me more and more, to be honest.

Also, not-with-standing the number of tracks that can be used via ReWire, I seem to be having poroblems using Reason within Tracktion now - the first note of the first bar seems to be getting completely dropped which is not just annoying - it makeds it unusable! I think I may have seen that mentioned in a thread here before, so I'll go off in search... another feather in Sonar's cap for now though

I think your previous analysis is right. If Tracktion and Sonar get the features we think they should have, it may only be video features and surround that separate Tracktion and Sonar in Sonars favour but the price difference (if Mackie don't push it up too high) should sway heavily in Tracktion's favour.There will likely be very little else to choose from between Sonar 4 and Tracktion 2 which would be a sensational achievement for Jules to achieve in just a few years.

Agreed...

As for AA (Adobe Audition)...I too tried the demo and found it to be top draw.It is a superb programme now with rewire as well.

You can probably tell that I'm a little frustrated by some irritations in the programmes mentioned above... but Audition really does look like the real deal so far as audio multitracking, editing, etc. And it could prove the best ReWire host for Reason in view of its masting capability.

I've made a decision to definitely get Audition, so that's one less thing to get vexed over!

At least you are taking your time headquest...hopefully you have found some of the advice I have given you in recent posts helpful.

Yes, I have found your advice very helpful - and friendly! Thank you.

Also thanks to all the other folks here who have made constructive advice...

[LoRez]

Plus sonar doesnt support VSTi's without wrapping.

So what? Where's the downside? SX doesn't support DX without wrapping! What's the difference...

[Shazbot]

Plus sonar doesnt support VSTi's without wrapping.

So what? Where's the downside? SX doesn't support DX without wrapping! What's the difference...

Yeah really. Once you set up the VST Wrapper and enable your VST/DX synths, which only takes a minute or two, then they're all set to use thereafter whenever you use Sonar. And ultimately, setting up a multi-channel synth and using it is faster in Sonar than in T where you've got to connect all of the rack outputs to each track. That can be very tedious. Seems to go much quicker in Sonar.

[LoRez]

Absolutely NO sequencer wars - ever! Like you I'm just interested.

Sequencer wars....I can just picture all the various sequencer boxes suiting up in their gear, dawning their weapons and marching against each other on some binary battle field Sorry....but it was a funny image to me. I wonder if there would be any attrocities? (A copy of Traktion cutting off the ear of of Live?) Or if a copy of Logic would return to speak about it to the press? I wonder if a copy of Sonar might get a bronze star or something for chasing down and killing a copy of Cubase SE? It could be quite bloody

[AD80]

...... And ultimately, setting up a multi-channel synth and using it is faster in Sonar than in T where you've got to connect all of the rack outputs to each track. That can be very tedious. Seems to go much quicker in Sonar.

Yes it can get tedius. Which is why I never do it . I just right click and auto wrap the filter in a rack. It hooks up everything automatically.

[Shazbot]

...... And ultimately, setting up a multi-channel synth and using it is faster in Sonar than in T where you've got to connect all of the rack outputs to each track. That can be very tedious. Seems to go much quicker in Sonar.

Yes it can get tedius. Which is why I never do it . I just right click and auto wrap the filter in a rack. It hooks up everything automatically.

It does? I click auto wrap, but then I still have to drag the instance from the rack up to each track and change the 1/2, 3/4 etc. to connect each channel, etc. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Shaz

[AD80]

Uhh you dont think its more flexible to be able to choose how many channels you want open and where they are in your project? I see it as an advantage. To each his own I guess.

[Shazbot]

Uhh you dont think its more flexible to be able to choose how many channels you want open and where they are in your project? I see it as an advantage. To each his own I guess.

I don't know if I'm understanding what you're even saying here. As far as I can tell, this is no different than in Sonar (where you can easily choose where your channels go), and I think it takes longer to hook it all up in T. That's why I was saying that multi-channel VST connection is a bit more tedious in T. But am I missing something by hooking everything up the way I described in T? Is there a faster way or not?

[lowkey]

Uhh you dont think its more flexible to be able to choose how many channels you want open and where they are in your project? I see it as an advantage. To each his own I guess.

I don't know if I'm understanding what you're even saying here. As far as I can tell, this is no different than in Sonar (where you can easily choose where your channels go), and I think it takes longer to hook it all up in T. That's why I was saying that multi-channel VST connection is a bit more tedious in T. But am I missing something by hooking everything up the way I described in T? Is there a faster way or not?

Yep. the "wrap filter in a rack" option when you right click the filter. The bad news is you have to set up the ins out outs but the good news is Tracton does have pairs for rewired applications.

[AD80]

Uhh you dont think its more flexible to be able to choose how many channels you want open and where they are in your project? I see it as an advantage. To each his own I guess.

I don't know if I'm understanding what you're even saying here. As far as I can tell, this is no different than in Sonar (where you can easily choose where your channels go), and I think it takes longer to hook it all up in T. That's why I was saying that multi-channel VST connection is a bit more tedious in T. But am I missing something by hooking everything up the way I described in T? Is there a faster way or not?

Doh! My mistake. I just re-read your comment. I thought you were refering to connecting each pin when you were talking about setting the inputs of each rack. I get it now. No there isnt any faster way that I know of . I think the flexibility of racks more than makes up for the inconvenience tho.

[bassface]

I see all this talk about sequencing and midi, but do you think that T2 will introduce additions to make it a professionaly tracking software, eg. non-destructive recording and loop recording?

Thanks.