Getting Omnisphere 2... or not?

[Armadillo]

If you are looking for realistic sounding guitars in Omnisphere I don't know why you bought it?
No synth provides realistic guitars.

I was not, nor ever stated that I was looking for realistic guitars (I play guitar for that) , I was simply pointing them out as a readily available example of garbage filler patches in Omnisphere. Each to their own, clearly you like it, I'm not impressed much.

I had a quick browse - there's no more than 60 guitar patches in Omni 2.
That's like 1% of the content.

Look, as I said before, it's not a synth for everyone, but it's easy to pick out tiny categories and complain about that. But at the end of the day, you could do that with any synth really.

[ghettosynth]

If you are looking for realistic sounding guitars in Omnisphere I don't know why you bought it?
No synth provides realistic guitars.

I was not, nor ever stated that I was looking for realistic guitars (I play guitar for that) , I was simply pointing them out as a readily available example of garbage filler patches in Omnisphere. Each to their own, clearly you like it, I'm not impressed much.

I had a quick browse - there's no more than 60 guitar patches in Omni 2.
That's like 1% of the content.

Look, as I said before, it's not a synth for everyone, but it's easy to pick out tiny categories and complain about that. But at the end of the day, you could do that with any synth really.

So, it's not a synth for me, for sure, but, that's not based on a "tiny category." A large percentage of the patches are just over processed and/or bombastic. I never feel that the atmospheric stuff isn't something that I can't get out of what I have and I think that so much of the sound is related to overprocessing as a way to make up for a lack of quality in the VA engine. The effects are fine, but, once you are past the polyphonic summer in a synth, I don't care much about effects because I have fantastic effects from many different vendors.

I think that the sounds largely reflect Eric's personality, some people like that, some people think that he's just a little bit cheesy and pompous.

[Jax Pok]

Thing you have to realize with Omnisphere is that it's aimed at TV Dramas and movie studios. There is content in there for music too but if you're into music Trillian and Keyscape should be first on the shopping list.

[aumordia]

there's no more than 60 guitar patches in Omni 2

There's no more than 60 guitar patches in most dedicated GOOD guitar libraries. And the one's in Omni are crap, at least from this guitarist's perspective.

That's like 1% of the content

Truly Omni is the most American of synths. We invented the Big Mac, Wal-Mart, and now, we offer unto the world, the synth larded up with countless gigs of random samples that you can run through absurd processing chains.

I hear Omni 3 will be powered by Brawndo.

FWIW, my opinion here isn't just a matter of what I like and don't like. I don't like Zebra 2 either -- bought it, sold it -- but in this case, I recognize it as a fine piece of engineering that simply doesn't suit me. Omni, OTOH, is GIGO personified -- but there are vast swathes of the paid-for music world where such a thing is a necessity, in which case Omni is certainly the best tool for the job.

[BBFG#]

Thing you have to realize with Omnisphere is that it's aimed at TV Dramas and movie studios. There is content in there for music too but if you're into music Trillian and Keyscape should be first on the shopping list.

Nonsense. It's aimed at every market and anybody that will buy it.
And when they realized it was missing a demographic, they decided to bloat it up with EDM patches to aim it there too.

And BTW folks, with guitars, it's not what you play, but how you play it.

[aumordia]

Anything technical inconvenience can be overcome with sufficient effort / investment of time / lack of a life...

[tibah]

Okay, I had to go and read the OP again...carefully.

Omni is not for you. Get Komplete. It will provide you with everything that you're looking for.

Nice idea, but I did own some things that are included in Komplete and, in the end, sold all of them. Massive, FM8, Absynth (still currently on sale in the market place), Reaktor. Friend of mine still owns Komplete so I know a fair bit of Kontakt, but it doesn't justify to purchase Komplete for that, knowing those other instruments never made it into my work-flow. Not saying they're bad. In fact, I always get a fuzzy feeling thinking about Reaktor. But then there are like a gazillion ensembles to try and...

[wagtunes]

Okay, I had to go and read the OP again...carefully.

Omni is not for you. Get Komplete. It will provide you with everything that you're looking for.

Nice idea, but I did own some things that are included in Komplete and, in the end, sold all of them. Massive, FM8, Absynth (still currently on sale in the market place), Reaktor. Friend of mine still owns Komplete so I know a fair bit of what's in Kontakt, but it doesn't justify to purchase Komplete for that, knowing those other instruments never made it into my work-flow. Not saying they're bad. In fact, I always get a fuzzy feeling thinking about Reaktor. But then there are like a gazillion ensembles to try and...

Well, then I don't know what to tell you. Aside from those few synths, Kontakt has all the bread and butter stuff such as drums, bass, guitars, strings, brass and so on. Everything you need for a rock band to an orchestra. It's not top of the line quality like Vienna Strings and stuff like that, but it's usable.

So if you're not going to go that route...

1) No synth is going to give you what you're looking for unless it's a large WS kind of thing like HALion or something like that.

2) Going for individual pieces can add up to a ton of money. I mean sure, you can go purchase something like EZDrummer for drums, MODO Bass for bass, Vir2 Electr6ity for guitars and on and on and on for every piece to make up a whole band or orchestra or whatever it is you want to put together, but prepare to shell out a fortune.

That's it. I mean you can get something like XPand2 for $1 that I think comes with most, if not all of the bread and butter stuff, but don't expect the most amazing quality. It's okay and that's about it.

I guess maybe HALion Sonic might do.

Your options are limited. But then I'm still not sure exactly what it is you're trying to accomplish here. So I don't know.

Good luck with your search.

[kevvvvv]

I have to say I prefer having Komplete 11 to Omnisphere, which I hardly ever use now.

Some things in Komplete I only use occasionally but it's good feeling when they're needed, and lo they're there.

I guess I'm trying to say Komplete gives me a broader musical spread than Omnisphere, and that's worth the money difference.

[Armadillo]

Okay, I had to go and read the OP again...carefully.

Omni is not for you. Get Komplete. It will provide you with everything that you're looking for.

Nice idea, but I did own some things that are included in Komplete and, in the end, sold all of them. Massive, FM8, Absynth (still currently on sale in the market place), Reaktor. Friend of mine still owns Komplete so I know a fair bit of Kontakt, but it doesn't justify to purchase Komplete for that, knowing those other instruments never made it into my work-flow. Not saying they're bad. In fact, I always get a fuzzy feeling thinking about Reaktor. But then there are like a gazillion ensembles to try and...

Komplete is a bargain and Kontakt is heavily overpriced
Unfortunately for guitars, strings, piano etc. you pretty much need Kontakt.
However, the spending doesn't stop there, cause all the best sample libraries are not the ones included in Komplete but the ones supplied by the likes of Orange tree samples, Spitfire audio, Cinematic studio, Embertone and a bunch of other ones. Then it can get really expensive if you are trying to get a lot of good stuff quick.
Alternatively, East west has this rental service called 'composer cloud' where you get their 54 products for $30 a month. You could try a month a see how it works out. They are very high quality for the most part. Certainly better than anything sampled in Komplete.

[aumordia]

Composer cloud could be worth a shot, that's a good idea. You could also consider getting a library for the free kontakt player to get you started, which will make you eligible for discounted cross grade pricing for full blown kontakt later if you want it.

[gremlinmoon]

FWIW my understanding is that most of the guitar sound sources in Omni come from Hans Zimmer guitars which was done by Spectrasonics in Akai/Roland format in 1994. I'm sure we've all heard those sounds on a million things a million times by now whether we know it or not. That being said this was way before scripted, multi-GB sample libraries. Eric has stated a lot, Omni is a synth and not a sampler. Cue Guitarscape...

[kevvvvv]

Guitars are a weakness of Omnisphere.

Some good ones, but not many

[Jax Pok]

Thing you have to realize with Omnisphere is that it's aimed at TV Dramas and movie studios. There is content in there for music too but if you're into music Trillian and Keyscape should be first on the shopping list.

Nonsense. It's aimed at every market and anybody that will buy it.
And when they realized it was missing a demographic, they decided to bloat it up with EDM patches to aim it there too.

And BTW folks, with guitars, it's not what you play, but how you play it.

Well I have used Omnisphere for six years after I got used to it I bought u-he Synths due to their sound and mostly single screen usability and some sampled instruments from Native instruments and Vir2. Omnisphere is missing a lot I didn't take to its synthesiser programming workflow it became an instrument for odd sounds and its great string pads nothing else for me.

[djmino02]

i think omnisphere has some really awesome patches and the sound designers that contributed are world renowned.

the quality of the samples are great, dynamic, and highly tweakable too.

for guitar sounds there's distorted reality 1 & 2, bizarre guitar, and Hans Zimmer Guitars vol.1 & 2. and that's just the legacy collection.