Next Propellerhead Reason upgrade (9.5) to include VST support

[Ableguy1]

This is going to generate revenues mostly from Reason Only users to get the ultimate toys from U-he, NI etc.
It's like adding a MUX to the racks...

You're right. 100 people are about to buy some plug-ins.

That's great for the industry.

[xbitz]

bidirectional MIDI streaming in ReWire would be more important (which is already supported but never developed), would be great if it able to use - DAWs have very limited functionality as ReWire slave if If it's even support it(except Reaper), so ReWire master also wouldn't be good solution - the already exists full architecture of our current DAW, IMO nobody gonna drop out their current solution and change it to Reason no matter if it supports VSTs or not

[bmrzycki]

A rumor on a website. I'll believe it when I see it available for sale on the prop shop. That just might, maybe, convince me to give them one more go. Knowing their recent changes they'll manage to screw it up somehow and make it not-quite-VST VST support.

[kmonkey]

This mean precisely what most of us expressed here and for what fanboys attacked:

RE is not selling as expected and they need new cash cow to grow or to spread (they won't earn from VST sales).

Ok that's what you get when you try to sell warm water as something new.

CEO need to eat his own made up sh**

I am glad (if this is true) that reason is going this route, many users will now feel what is so great about having great effects and instruments.

[sfxsound3]

PDC? Freeze? Stability? Clusterfuck?

[maschinelf]

Nevermind

[nix808]

It would be sweet IMO

-No PDC
-No freeze(render down audio)
-Stability dictated by VST compatibility

-A clusterfraek of my VSTs in Reason
(they will probably not support 32-bit though)

[patchhunter]

I think that in addition to adding vst support to reason, reason should continue to make new instruments as part of reason and also introduce those new instruments/effects as vst possibly included in reason itself or sold separately.

[D-Fusion]

It would be sweet IMO

-No PDC
-No freeze(render down audio)
-Stability dictated by VST compatibility

-A clusterfraek of my VSTs in Reason
(they will probably not support 32-bit though)

Reason 9 has freeze but in Reason 9 it is called Bounce in place

[Ableguy1]

I think that in addition to adding vst support to reason, reason should continue to make new instruments as part of reason and also introduce those new instruments/effects as vst possibly included in reason itself or sold separately.

That's what I'd like to. To be able to use some Reason products in Ableton. Though other things have caught up and certainly surpassed, some of the synths in Reason would be nice to use in other places

[paulbreeze]

Reason 9.5 adds VST plugin support in Reason. Add any plugin you want to Reason's legendary creative flow. Version 9.5 is a free update for all Reason 9 owners and it's coming on May 29!

[sellyoursoul]

Very cool news!

I only wish that it would have happened years ago, as I have committed to moving away from windows to linux, as a result of microsoft's current direction and business practices. I don't see microsoft suddenly doing a 180 turn, and enough daw and plugin developers are making native linux a reality that it is now a feasible move as a daw user. As one example, Reaper has been making good progress lately toward native linux, which is another huge deal.

I realize that there isn't a large number of daw users on linux at the moment, but as more developers make the move, the many benefits of running an open-source os and utilities is becoming more attractive all the time to more users and other developers. Specific to daws, jack allows for the system and daw software to pass bidirectional audio and MIDI around, which is way cool. And ALSA allows for audio interfaces to function without proprietary drivers.

And there are so many varied vested interests in linux that it only makes sense that no one party has enough control over it to poison the well, as is going on with windows and microsoft. Linux is robust, versatile, cheap to use, and the development model just so happens to keep it rooted in ethics.

So yay! for Reason getting vst plugin support. Bummer! that I won't be using it, unless Reason gets some linux development. Vst plugin support will definitely bring Reason into the present tense, making it much more attractive to a wider user base. And it would be very interesting seeing what the Reason team could cook up as powerful plugins. I just hope that it doesn't take so long this time around for Reason to arrive into the future present of a wicked good daw platform that is currently developing on linux.

[nix808]

Raeson is onnn!
I think I might try and build a track or two.
How do we define CVs, as VST builders?

edit- that's cool there's freeze, I'm running some ancient technology-
ta for the heads up D

[EvilDragon]

Ha! Let's remember what Ernst Nathorst-Böös said about VSTs just three short years ago. It's funny how quickly he changed his tune when he got outside investors.

http://www.kvraudio.com/interviews/in-s ... -b-s-25935

We looked at existing plug-in platforms and people were asking why we didn't have plug-ins in Reason. Plug-ins are a great prospect, but by our standards there are to many things about them that just don't work. To be blunt, it's old crappy technology. It's being patched up, but still. For starters, if the plug-in crashes, your document is in jeopardy. Automation and remote control are very complicated whereas in Reason they are all automatic. User interfaces are all different between products, which to newcomers is completely bewildering. I could go on.

Heheh, yeah. How does it feel to eat your own shitty statements, Ernst?

How do we define CVs, as VST builders?

I don't think you do. Seems they have basic CV for MIDI control (gate, pitch), audio in/out, and optional CVs are either sent as MIDI data, or automation events. At least that's what I'm figuring out from the video above.

[Urs]

A rumor on a website.

I was so tempted to say "it wasn't me"

Been known this for a while, glad it's out now.