script to insert for a note half bend or full bend or vibrato with pitch or insert data from a .mid
-
- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
is something as this here in waveforms or tracktion scripts ?. i see the attached scripts but it is not here. maybe a user script is here. notation software have this possible, and on guitar notesheets stand too this. so the ability to add bends on notes or for all notes is very good. or if it is possible to add on cursor position with a script the data of a .mid file is very usefull too. then a .mid file can create that contain the pitch wheel data for good sounding bend or maybe filter sweeps
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
No, we don't have the ability to script MIDI entry at the moment.
Probably the easiest thing to do for this is import the MIDI file with the data you want to use, select the CC data you want and then copy and paste it to the desired clip?
Alternatively you could use the line tool to draw in pitch bend changes in the MIDI editor?
Probably the easiest thing to do for this is import the MIDI file with the data you want to use, select the CC data you want and then copy and paste it to the desired clip?
Alternatively you could use the line tool to draw in pitch bend changes in the MIDI editor?
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
I try the note bend feature, but it not work. note pitch feature look good, because i can then do a articulation clip that contain notes in diffrent length with nice bend and i can then move the note in my song. I use collective with a sound that support pitch bend and a pitch wheel curve in controller is not in
draw in controller work ok but it is not good to handle because need select a range. line draw tool is not good for bending. parabel give better sounding result. i can send you video with parabel bend and line bend. other daw have parabel function, but i need it not important, because when draw once a nice bend and save it it is best
draw in controller work ok but it is not good to handle because need select a range. line draw tool is not good for bending. parabel give better sounding result. i can send you video with parabel bend and line bend. other daw have parabel function, but i need it not important, because when draw once a nice bend and save it it is best
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by "note bend feature" and using an articulation clip?
We don't currently support curve based MIDI editing, only individual values.
We don't currently support curve based MIDI editing, only individual values.
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
I mean this pitch curve that can draw on a note when in the note menu is choose show pitchbend. see attach picture.when copy the note the curve should copy too. but play the note, play no bend. and when copy the note and move it, the curve is lost when there are other notes at same time that have no curve. if it work is ok, because i can easy copy notes that contain good sounding pitch curve. I have also report a crash when draw a curve in the dev thread.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
These "Note Expressions" are only generated when the clip is set to "Multi Channel" mode (). In this mode, MPE MIDI is created which divides the notes into channels and converts the expression to CC changes and pitchbend messages.
However, for this to work correctly you need a plugin that supports MPE e.g. Roli's Equator. Our plugins (Collective & BioTek) currently don't support MPE.
Without the multi-channel mode active, multiple pitch bend changes on overlapping notes don't work as you would have conflicting pitch bend messages on the same MIDI channel.
However, for this to work correctly you need a plugin that supports MPE e.g. Roli's Equator. Our plugins (Collective & BioTek) currently don't support MPE.
Without the multi-channel mode active, multiple pitch bend changes on overlapping notes don't work as you would have conflicting pitch bend messages on the same MIDI channel.
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
is it not easy possible that waveforms can send simple pitch bend events in single track mode ?. it is not usefull to have polyphonic pitchbend, it only give odd detune, onbly usefull for cinema sound effect maybe. if there is a chord or more notes it sound better when all notes at this time bend too. the advantage of this pitch bend inside the note is, it can easy copy and paste, move such notes, without mark a range. this save lots time, if make music that use pitchbend.
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
I try mark a range of a note and want copy it with pitchbend on the controller track for pitchbend. when paste, the pitchbend is not insert
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
No, this won't work. The lines on individual notes denote "Note Expression". As I've explained, this is a proprietary format but converted to MPE during playback. MPE requires the use of multiple channels and the expression is specifically for those notes.
As the "Note Expression" is different from regular MIDI CC, you can't copy and paste it to the MIDI controller lanes. There often isn't a clear way to do this. For example, "Note Expression - Pitchbend" is a number of semitones. This doesn't convert to the MIDI range of 0 - 16,383 without specifying some scaling.
Because of these issues we've separated "Note Expression" from MIDI CC. Only the editors are similar.
I don't think what you are trying to achieve is currently possible.
As the "Note Expression" is different from regular MIDI CC, you can't copy and paste it to the MIDI controller lanes. There often isn't a clear way to do this. For example, "Note Expression - Pitchbend" is a number of semitones. This doesn't convert to the MIDI range of 0 - 16,383 without specifying some scaling.
Because of these issues we've separated "Note Expression" from MIDI CC. Only the editors are similar.
I don't think what you are trying to achieve is currently possible.
- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
I think what the original poster fails to understand is that regular pitchbend is not logically connected to a note. So if you copy a note, there is nothing that tells that present pitchbend CC data "belongs" to that note.
-
- KVRAF
- 1790 posts since 30 Dec, 2012
Ah right, yes as Stuttaton says, pitchbend CC data belongs to the clip. Otherwise, every time you moved a note, you would drag the pitch bend data around with it and cause an incredibly messed up pitch bend sequence of events.
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
see screenshot of guitar pro. other notation software work same. you can add easy a bend, or store it as a preset. when copy such a note, the bend is copy too. when there is a chord play then all notes are bend same. this is usefull. i never need on chords bend diffrent. mostly need is bend on monophonic or octave doubling.
I need no note notation but wy can simple midi editors not offer too such a easy to use bend feature, or allow at least copy the bend when move a note, per option. maybe when hold shift or other
really i am the only one that like in songs lead voice bends easy add
I need no note notation but wy can simple midi editors not offer too such a easy to use bend feature, or allow at least copy the bend when move a note, per option. maybe when hold shift or other
really i am the only one that like in songs lead voice bends easy add
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRian
- 755 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
You can simply make the clip (with your pitch bend) the size of the note and use this when you need to copy the pitch bend. You can also copy/paste clips between edits.
If you export this midi clip, it can be imported in any project.
If you export this midi clip, it can be imported in any project.
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
with a own clip for bend look as a good idea. but have a second clip in same track have porblems to select clips, but it really works with bend. so i get the idea do a second track that contain the clips with controller data and choose 2 inputs for the first track the first track have input from second track that contain bend data, and from my midi keyboard. but the first track do not play the bend from second track. maybe you know a better solution to get the output from track 2 to input of track 1. my english is not good, hope you understand what i mean, or should i do a video that show it ?
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
-
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1405 posts since 11 Nov, 2013
can somebodxy tell how can get a track for input in another track ? i test it to get midi notes in track 1. the input do not show levels. or do i need a special output on right side ?. if so what. use default settings. wy this can not easy work
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
win 11 64 25H2 ryzen 8600G (6*4.3 GHZ) 48 GB Ram
