How can I generate a click track for pre-recorded track?

[Mark Swanson]

Is there a way to load a track into Waveform, and generate a click track when one was not used before? I see Melodyne is supposed to do this, but I don't know how to do it, and I imagine Melodyne Essential does not do that anyway and that's all I have.
I know there may well be several ways to do it, and different DAWs do it in different ways but I do not know if it can be done in Waveform or not. When I used Pro Tools, there was "Beat Detective", which I was never able to figure out....hoping Waveform has a way to do it because I prefer it to Pro Tools anyway.
To be clear, I'd like to use the Tempo Track to lock Waveform's metronome and grid to the generated click. Does anyone know if that is possible?

[zzz00m]

Is there a way to load a track into Waveform, and generate a click track when one was not used before? I see Melodyne is supposed to do this, but I don't know how to do it, and I imagine Melodyne Essential does not do that anyway and that's all I have.
I know there may well be several ways to do it, and different DAWs do it in different ways but I do not know if it can be done in Waveform or not. When I used Pro Tools, there was "Beat Detective", which I was never able to figure out....hoping Waveform has a way to do it because I prefer it to Pro Tools anyway.
To be clear, I'd like to use the Tempo Track to lock Waveform's metronome and grid to the generated click. Does anyone know if that is possible?

I know that you can do this in Sonar, using Melodyne Essentials. The way it is supposed to work there is to drag the wave clip up to the timeline, which then kicks in the ARA thingy automatically and sets the tempo changes detected from the recorded wave into the project tempo.

This process is far from perfect, though, and a lot depends on your source material. Essentials is monophonic, so you probably need to isolate part of your track to find one sound with a good rhythm, or else it may detect the wrong beats. Essentials also won't work correctly on polyphonic material or chords. I have had some success by mixing down a copy of a pre-recorded track using extreme multi-band compression and EQ that isolates the rhythm, and cuts out a lot of the other frequencies, to give the Melodyne algorithm a better chance at detecting the beats.

So that is a good question, can this be accomplished in Waveform?

[Mark Swanson]

Thanks! I'd love to be able to do it, it would greatly enhance the feel of the music that I do. Hopefully some more folks who might know will jump in and help out.

[zzz00m]

Thanks! I'd love to be able to do it, it would greatly enhance the feel of the music that I do. Hopefully some more folks who might know will jump in and help out.

Maybe this will help. Nothing to do with Melodyne, but offers another method.

Found this video from Bill Edstrom titled "Tracktion T6 - Creating a Tempo Map".
https://w-edstrom.wistia.com/medias/687engp5ar

It looks like a manual process that lets you match an existing performance to the timeline and grid in the DAW.

[Mark Swanson]

That is going to really help me out I think! This is a process I can work with. I can't wait to try it out!

[Mark Swanson]

I gave this a try today, and it worked a treat! this is what I always wanted to be able to do, and I could never get it right in Pro Tools. It's easy in Waveform! I am happy.

[chico.co.uk]

It might be interesting to create a simple audio track, or midi track, then bounce it to audio, just you tapping along in time with the prerecorded audio, then feed that monophonic tapping track to Melodyne, and see what it spits out as a tempo map ...

[Mark Swanson]

That would be interesting, too...but then, that track would be dependent on my ability to tap on the beat, and my errors would be doubled from me trying to tap along with a track that already is wavering a bit! I felt like I could be very precise by going through the track bar by bar and adjusting it manually...it is more time consuming for sure.

[chico.co.uk]

Bill's tutorial is good, another slightly different method that dates back to about tracktion 1-ish times. Looks like the website that explained it isn't there any more, but there's a pdf version of the same technique here;

http://www.bootiemashup.com/bootcampcli ... torial.pdf

[zzz00m]

Bill's tutorial is good, another slightly different method that dates back to about tracktion 1-ish times. Looks like the website that explained it isn't there any more, but there's a pdf version of the same technique here;

http://www.bootiemashup.com/bootcampcli ... torial.pdf

Nice! Thanks.