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pljones · Post by **pljones** » Mon May 29, 2017 4:24 pm

Increasing prices could reduce the number of sales, though, in an ever-competitive market. Donations, being voluntary, would have no effect on sales and -- perhaps -- even allow funding for advertising to increase sales. It's impossible to predict the outcome of increasing prices. It's also, as you say, likely that a voluntary donation isn't going to bring much reward, either. However, given that there's no cost involved in enabling donations, I can't think of a reason to prevent it. It doesn't prevent product price increases in future, either, as it's entirely unrelated to payment for product development.

guy mingo · Post by **guy mingo** » Mon May 29, 2017 8:32 pm

Whatever incentive is provided by raising the purchase price should also be incurred through donations, no? I suppose there's no reason why both avenues couldn't be traversed.
By the way, I'm not suggesting the dev should work harder. As far as I'm concerned the product is more than capable of providing the tools needed to create amazing music, and has been for a while.
Yes, the point of donating is to say thanks. I see nothing wrong with that.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Mon May 29, 2017 9:45 pm

Perhaps donations toward advertising: 'Share the Enjoyment' ?

Tryezz · Post by **Tryezz** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:38 am

mutools wrote:Do you mean a totally free donation, i mean with no strings attached?
I mean: Maybe people who will donate will also 'ask' for specific FRs because they donated.
That's a situation i want to avoid.

Or do you mean a pure donation, no strings attached?

No strings attached. It's just a way of added support and saying thanks and keep up the good work.
Having an option open for it could work out well.

cloudspell · Post by **cloudspell** » Tue May 30, 2017 7:29 am

Before I have trouble with MuLab and mutools always there for the help.
Also for the free upgrade really appreciate the kindness. So in return I want to donate to mutools company to help them.

imstre · Post by **imstre** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:04 am

cloudspell wrote:Before I have trouble with MuLab and mutools always there for the help.
Also for the free upgrade really appreciate the kindness. So in return I want to donate to mutools company to help them.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue May 30, 2017 10:17 am

There now is a donation button on the MuTools shop page: http://www.mutools.com/shop.html
You can donate 10 euro or any multiple of it.
Thanks!

imstre · Post by **imstre** » Tue May 30, 2017 1:39 pm

mutools wrote:There now is a donation button on the MuTools shop page: http://www.mutools.com/shop.html
You can donate any multiple of 10 euro.
Thanks!

freddo · Post by **freddo** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:31 pm

cloudspell wrote:Also for the free upgrade really appreciate the kindness. So in return I want to donate to mutools company to help them.

Aren't free upgrades part and parcel? I mean, who'd buy an app that didn't offer free upgrades? You'd end up stuck with a bugged out app!

For example, look at the Korg Electribe 2. It's buggy as hell and Korg are doing next to nothing to fix all the issues it has. Granted, they made a very small effort to solve some things, but the unit is left unusable in a live situation for many due to pattern change glitches. Totally unacceptable. You could argue that you buy as is, but that allows the dev/mftr to be as sloppy as they want.

So realistically upgrades are mandatory and should be free in order to solve teething issues related to new products/features.

Just my thoughts, no malice intended.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:00 pm

freddo wrote:
cloudspell wrote:Also for the free upgrade really appreciate the kindness. So in return I want to donate to mutools company to help them.
Aren't free upgrades part and parcel? I mean, who'd buy an app that didn't offer free upgrades? You'd end up stuck with a bugged out app!

For example, look at the Korg Electribe 2. It's buggy as hell and Korg are doing next to nothing to fix all the issues it has. Granted, they made a very small effort to solve some things, but the unit is left unusable in a live situation for many due to pattern change glitches. Totally unacceptable. You could argue that you buy as is, but that allows the dev/mftr to be as sloppy as they want.

So realistically upgrades are mandatory and should be free in order to solve teething issues related to new products/features.

Just my thoughts, no malice intended.

Be clear on the difference between "upgrade" (I take to mean "addition of features") and "update" (enhancement/fixes to existing features). Going from MuLab 2 to 3 to 4, etc are upgrades. Going from MuLab 7.4.1 to 7.4.2 is an update. Or, taking a different manufacturer, going from Native Instruments Kontakt 4 to Kontakt 5 is an upgrade (and you pay); going from Kontakt 5.6.x to 5.6.8 is an update (and is free).

Tryezz · Post by **Tryezz** » Tue May 30, 2017 9:12 pm

mutools wrote:There now is a donation button on the MuTools shop page: http://www.mutools.com/shop.html
You can donate 10 euro or any multiple of it.
Thanks!

Excellence.

freddo · Post by **freddo** » Tue May 30, 2017 9:34 pm

pljones wrote:
freddo wrote:
cloudspell wrote:Also for the free upgrade really appreciate the kindness. So in return I want to donate to mutools company to help them.
Aren't free upgrades part and parcel? I mean, who'd buy an app that didn't offer free upgrades? You'd end up stuck with a bugged out app!

For example, look at the Korg Electribe 2. It's buggy as hell and Korg are doing next to nothing to fix all the issues it has. Granted, they made a very small effort to solve some things, but the unit is left unusable in a live situation for many due to pattern change glitches. Totally unacceptable. You could argue that you buy as is, but that allows the dev/mftr to be as sloppy as they want.

So realistically upgrades are mandatory and should be free in order to solve teething issues related to new products/features.

Just my thoughts, no malice intended.
Be clear on the difference between "upgrade" (I take to mean "addition of features") and "update" (enhancement/fixes to existing features). Going from MuLab 2 to 3 to 4, etc are upgrades. Going from MuLab 7.4.1 to 7.4.2 is an update. Or, taking a different manufacturer, going from Native Instruments Kontakt 4 to Kontakt 5 is an upgrade (and you pay); going from Kontakt 5.6.x to 5.6.8 is an update (and is free).

Upgrade was the word CloudSpell used, so I used it. Correct it as you see fit. But the stance still stands...

cloudspell · Post by **cloudspell** » Wed May 31, 2017 1:25 am

I've purchase ML6 before and a week before ML7 was out and I at that day I want to use ML7 :p
I just give a try emailing them
I thought they wouldn't mind my request, But they gave me a UL of Mulab7 for free

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