Next Propellerhead Reason upgrade (9.5) to include VST support

[EnochLight]

That makes 2 of my assumptions invalid. Reason not getting VST support, and the PH shop not offering VST's. Although the collection of plugins they offer is pretty small so far.

I'm totally guessing, but I think the curated selection of VST in their shop are the ones that they know work within Reason 9.5 fairly well and meet their Q&A level. That said, I seriously doubt any/every indie-dev under the sun will be able to get their wares sold there.

That said, I'd never buy VST from their shop anyway - not when I can go direct to the dev and get it on sale (iZotope was doing 30% off this past week if you got it from them - I picked up Neutron Advanced)!

[ghettosynth]

That makes 2 of my assumptions invalid. Reason not getting VST support, and the PH shop not offering VST's. Although the collection of plugins they offer is pretty small so far.

I suppose that they feel that they have to, but, frankly, I don't see the point? They have none of the exclusivity features that they have with REs and so I find it unlikely that people will tolerate restrictions such as "you can't sell your VSTs" just to buy it in there shop?

I imagine that some of their indie devs might want to sell through the props shop to avoid some hassle.

Time will tell.

[EnochLight]

I find it unlikely that people will tolerate restrictions such as "you can't sell your VSTs" just to buy it in there shop?.

Buying it in the PropsShop doesn't negate being able to sell/transfer your license. That's up to the VST dev.

[ghettosynth]

I find it unlikely that people will tolerate restrictions such as "you can't sell your VSTs" just to buy it in there shop?.

Buying it in the PropsShop doesn't negate being able to sell/transfer your license. That's up to the VST dev.

Sure, my point wasn't that it would, rather, that Props would have no leverage trying to assert such restrictions. It was an example of a restriction, not a statement of fact.

[Contour]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

[ghettosynth]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

Since it organizes them for you by vendor, it doesn't really matter. It will sort out which are effects and which are instruments and put them in the right place.

[qvprod]

VST's now available in the PH shop: https://shop.propellerheads.se/browse/? ... &view=grid

P.S.: Welcome, qvprod.

Thank you, It only took me 6 years to make my apparent first post? Thought I posted here at least once before.

[qvprod]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

There's no user organization possible right now. You can however minimize each developer to make for less scrolling. Not the same, but useful at least.

[EnochLight]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

You can also go into the Plugin Manager window and disable stuff that you don't use.

[aMUSEd]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

Since it organizes them for you by vendor, it doesn't really matter. It will sort out which are effects and which are instruments and put them in the right place.

Well it will if they give it the right information in the first place, I have a couple of fx appearing in the instruments section and several utilities appearing in effects. That isn't Reason's fault though, but if they added the ability to customise the browser more fully (and not be organised by developer names but use something more sensible like plugin type) it may be less of an issue.

[ghettosynth]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

Since it organizes them for you by vendor, it doesn't really matter. It will sort out which are effects and which are instruments and put them in the right place.

Well it will if they give it the right information in the first place, I have a couple of fx appearing in the instruments section and several utilities appearing in effects. That isn't Reason's fault though, but if they added the ability to customise the browser more fully (and not be organised by developer names but use something more sensible like plugin type) it may be less of an issue.

No disagreement. I hate organization by vendor for the most part. I like categories that make sense to me.

[fgimian]

* The mixer is just as unfriendly as I remember

Are you talking about the SSL clone? I mean, I'm not a fan of that level of skeuomorphism, I prefer Cubase/Reaper for mixing, but, there's no way that the SSL is as unfriendly as the 16:2 mixer that was the main mixer in version 4.

Yeah, the SSL is absolutely enormous. I can't think of many other sequencers where I need to scroll to see my faders while tweaking other aspects of a channel. The 16:2 mixer was simple but it was actually imho more practical. It was small, had 4 sends, which is what I usually would need. The chaining aspect of 16:2 was the main thing that made it a slight pain.

But of course, everyone is different

[ghettosynth]

* The mixer is just as unfriendly as I remember

Are you talking about the SSL clone? I mean, I'm not a fan of that level of skeuomorphism, I prefer Cubase/Reaper for mixing, but, there's no way that the SSL is as unfriendly as the 16:2 mixer that was the main mixer in version 4.

Yeah, the SSL is absolutely enormous. I can't think of many other sequencers where I need to scroll to see my faders while tweaking other aspects of a channel. The 16:2 mixer was simple but it was actually imho more practical. It was small, had 4 sends, which is what I usually would need. The chaining aspect of 16:2 was the main thing that made it a slight pain.

But of course, everyone is different

No, I agree that it is too large. I don't like that either. But, you can at least shrink sections down to make it manageable. Given a choice though, I don't think that the 16:2 was really useful at all. The EQ was total shit and it was a royal pain to setup any sort of bus processing. So yes, it's fricking huge and I think that they could do better, but the 16:2 needed a LOT of work.

[fgimian]

* The mixer is just as unfriendly as I remember

Are you talking about the SSL clone? I mean, I'm not a fan of that level of skeuomorphism, I prefer Cubase/Reaper for mixing, but, there's no way that the SSL is as unfriendly as the 16:2 mixer that was the main mixer in version 4.

Yeah, the SSL is absolutely enormous. I can't think of many other sequencers where I need to scroll to see my faders while tweaking other aspects of a channel. The 16:2 mixer was simple but it was actually imho more practical. It was small, had 4 sends, which is what I usually would need. The chaining aspect of 16:2 was the main thing that made it a slight pain.

But of course, everyone is different

No, I agree that it is too large. I don't like that either. But, you can at least shrink sections down to make it manageable. Given a choice though, I don't think that the 16:2 was really useful at all. The EQ was total shit and it was a royal pain to setup any sort of bus processing. So yes, it's fricking huge and I think that they could do better, but the 16:2 needed a LOT of work.

Yeah you're right. I think the best way is to hide all sections and show only the ones you need while working. The new mixer does sound awesome.

I think an awesome idea would be to allow the user to show everything on a channel (EQ, dynamics .etc) within the rack itself, on the channel device. We already see volume and can tweak the EQ via graph, but they could add another little button that shows the EQ with knobs, dynamics, stereo width .etc .etc

I'm starting to get the hang of the new mixer now and as you said, it really is a huge step forward from the old mixer.

The issue of tiny text is one I face throughout Reason. Back in the day, I was on a 800 x 600 resolution and could just see one rack on my screen. Now, screen resolutions are much much higher yet the text is the same size.

With all that being said, I do enjoy working in Reason, it's a very creative DAW

[Jace-BeOS]

How do I organise my plugins in Reason?

I have a ton and in all other DAWs I work I either divide them by folders or save DAW specific presets in folder or other locations that make sense to me (eg. Compressors, EQs, Synths, Samplers, or by manufacturer)

Since it organizes them for you by vendor, it doesn't really matter. It will sort out which are effects and which are instruments and put them in the right place.

Well it will if they give it the right information in the first place, I have a couple of fx appearing in the instruments section and several utilities appearing in effects. That isn't Reason's fault though, but if they added the ability to customise the browser more fully (and not be organised by developer names but use something more sensible like plugin type) it may be less of an issue.

No disagreement. I hate organization by vendor for the most part. I like categories that make sense to me.

Any DAW not using my VST folder hierarchy as the in-app plugin organization generally irritates me...