KVR Audio

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:25 pm

recursive one wrote:Btw, it seems that many people don't understand that "audio rate modulation" in Dune is not a global sound quality enchancer. It only matters when you are using modulation signals faster than 100 HZ, eg oscillators of fast LFOs. Otherwise setiing the modulation speed to audio rate won't do any difference to the sound.

I haven't tested Dune extensively to see all what is changed... snappy envelopes can sound more solid at audio rate than control rate.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:29 pm

chk071 wrote:I'll try that, even though i'm pretty sure that there should be no difference, whether you modulate parameters with the LFO's, or the OSC's. After all, it's both a value/audio signal, which has to be "translated" in a way, and the synth's engine should handle that the same, if i'm not totally mistaken. But, of course, the higher the modulation rate, the more apparent it should be, if it is not running on audio rate.

It is possible that an Osc calculates at audio rate and an LFO at control rate. (whatever those rates are in a particular synth)

It is really up to whatever the developer decides to do.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:50 pm

pdxindy wrote: snappy envelopes can sound more solid at audio rate than control rate.

Sounds logical, will test that. The manual says that switching to audiorate affects all modulation sources.

Is not quite clear though if this refers only to modmatrix assignments or hardwired modulations too, in Dune2 one envelope is hardwired to amp and another one - to filter, so it may or may not make sense to override the respective pre-assigments by manually assigning the envelopes to the same targets via the matrix in order to have the benefits of the ARM (it just stroke me that this is where this mysterious "envelope bang" may hide).

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:24 pm

This is Dune2 when using oscillator as modulator. This can only be done at high audio modulation rates.

*missed it

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:40 pm

I just finish a free Mini bank and Wt folder for Dune2
-44 presets & 65 wavetables-
sharp, hifi and crispy tables with atmospherique and classic sounds -:),
i hope you will find it usefull for your music

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p916hlofmppds ... k.zip?dl=0

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:32 am

kokotte wrote:I just finish a free Mini bank and Wt folder for Dune2
-44 presets & 65 wavetables-
sharp, hifi and crispy tables with atmospherique and classic sounds -:),
i hope you will find it usefull for your music

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p916hlofmppds ... k.zip?dl=0

Hey that's kind of you thanks!

Devastator · Post by **Devastator** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:00 pm

Dasheesh wrote:...and solid state drives speed up your computer allowing more voices. When I shoved a proper ssd in my old 2012 mac it gave me a handful of more voices to play with.

No they don't!
If you had even basic computer knowledge you would know that!

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:41 pm

Look, all I can tell you is that before my ssd I had troubles playing pads in Bazille, after the ssd I could play the same pads. Try it, you'll like it. Enjoy your drink, or what ever gets you kids off these days.

Benjamin923 · Post by **Benjamin923** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:34 pm

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:15 pm

Yes well a system is just that, a system, and when has a computer worked like a geek wants if too? And if you had any experience you would know that.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:25 pm

Alright look. What these guys are getting at is through put has a limit. What probably happened is that my old school mac had a spinner that was less then through put and the ssd gave me through put capacity, but I'm drunk on tequila and eating ribs on the BBQ and I don't play with Richards. So there you go. Enjoy your night.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:28 pm

kokotte wrote:I just finish a free Mini bank and Wt folder for Dune2
-44 presets & 65 wavetables-
sharp, hifi and crispy tables with atmospherique and classic sounds -:),
i hope you will find it usefull for your music

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p916hlofmppds ... k.zip?dl=0

Thanks

loungepanda · Post by **loungepanda** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:12 pm

Decided to make a (half-arsed) version of the Twin Peaks theme using Dune 2:

https://soundcloud.com/termokande/dune-peaks

Nothing else except EQ here and there + Presswerk on master

ZaBong69 · Post by **ZaBong69** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:58 am

Dasheesh wrote:
EnGee wrote:
1. 4 FM Operators instead of 3 with the known algos like in Operator (Ableton Live) (I don't mind taking a whole layer for that).
2. 2 Filters and some routings like in NI Massive (that would be more than great!)
3. Option to colour every layer.
4. Larger middle screen without the modulation matrix, like in Sylenth1 and Hive.
5. The modulation matrix better to be in the keyboard section (like in Hive for example.
Yes and please implement quantum computing and manipulate gravity while you are at it thanks.

None of the requests EnGee asks for strikes me as particulary demanding to implement. 4 FM is pretty standard, 2 Filters in series should be ok if you can do 8 in parallel, as Dune does right now, and the rest is UI. This also are quite sensible suggestions.

I am genuinely puzzled by your comment, Dasheesh.

ZaBong69 · Post by **ZaBong69** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:08 am

Another thing about Dune 2, I was really suprised by a free soundset found here:

I would not have thought that Dune 2 can sound like this - that is, raw and squelchy. Acid is not my favourite thing, but I suspect that Dune 2 has a lot more tricks in its sleeve if it can do that.

I really wish that Dune had a more immediate access to modulations, like e.g. Serum or Avenger, modulating things feels like doing spreadsheet calculations. Otherwise, Dune 2 would get far more use, as it is so low on ressources and can do all the essentials.

DUNE 2 is out now!!