Viper｜1.2.2 update with bugfixes and new skin

[kmonkey]

I have done a lof of calculations, comparing features and what it can do compared to other synths, how much work I have put into this, plus it will have free updates and so on, I have decided it will be 89€. Not much to pay for a proper Virusy sound I think

Price is super cool.

To others - i use jBrdige for years now. It is what 10 EUR. 10 EUR you spend on weekend pizza. jBridge is super stable and you can run ton of 32 bit plugins in 64 bit daw.

Come on. Support some decent work.

edit: pardon jBridge is 15 eur. Ok then that is pizza and a cola (not coke lol)

[kokotte]

I have done a lof of calculations, comparing features and what it can do compared to other synths, how much work I have put into this, plus it will have free updates and so on, I have decided it will be 89€. Not much to pay for a proper Virusy sound I think

Price is super cool.

To others - i use jBrdige for years now. It is what 10 EUR. 10 EUR you spend on weekend pizza. jBridge is super stable and you can run ton of 32 bit plugins in 64 bit daw.

Come on. Support some decent work.

edit: pardon jBridge is 15 eur. Ok then that is pizza and a cola (not coke lol)

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[AnX]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

[SampleScience]

Is flowstone in development for 64bit?

On Facebook, the devs said that they were going to work on a 64 bit version of Flowstone. But when it will be finish and done? That is the question! Hopefully the new version will be compatible with older project files, although I'd be surprise if the transition end up being flawless. It's already the case with old SynthMaker projects, they don't translate perfectly well in Flowstone.

About the Windows 32 bit market shrinking, I looked at my numbers for Orion Sound Module (the most downloaded plugin in my catalogue) and it seems to be slowly shrinking. Orion Sound Module has been download more than 20 000k times in the last year between June 2016 and now.

Here's the download stats:

Windows VST 64 bit: 50%
Windows VST 32 bit: 24%
Mac OS X VST (Universal): 13%
Mac OS X AU (Universal): 13%

That's roughly the stats I have for each of my plugins. What I find interesting is that the Windows 32 bit users are almost equal to the Mac OSX users. However, Mac OS X users tend to spend more, so if you're a dev with a catalog of plugins it will be more profitable to support Mac OS X than Windows 32 bit.

When people want a plugin and they can't get it because of the software they use, they will always complain. I get complaints from Pro Tools users, although they are a very small part of the market. If you make something desirable, complaints are almost inevitable unless you support all platforms.

[adamszabo]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

[4damind]

Ok, upon release Viper won't do everything what Virus does but actually about 70% of the unique Virus sound is in its fiters and effects which seem to be properly modelled. These pads, plucks, fat basses and floating arpeggios Virus is known for are mostly based on its VA oscillator.

This is the big question, whether the plugin really fills the gap or it's only another VA with the intention to be a Virus emulation. If it sounds 1:1 like a Virus and people say "wow, this sounds exactly like the hardware", there is a good chance people will try it (also with some of the Flowstone limitations we spoke about).
There is also the question if it sounds more like a Virus C or Ti.. which waveforms are included etc.

It's close enough.
You hear a difference with higher filter resonance. It sounds also a bit more flat with some effects turned on. Will be interesting how it compares e.g to Spire (with the Virus TI filter). The CPU usage is also interesting for patches with longer release times, Unison turned on etc. Too early for a final summary only because of a video.
But because of the 32 Bit thingy and it's only Flowstone (the successor of Synthmaker?) and not a native developed synth I would see it in the price range of $30 to $50 (comparable eg. with Memorymoon or ME80)

[ATN69]

Not that I want to argue with your points, because basically I agree with some of it. But personally I prefer to buy a really nice sounding and interesting synth and pay $99, even though it's just 32-bit synth, comparing to buy a synth that is both 32-bit and 64-bit for $50, but it happens to be nothing special. 64-bit and cheap are not enough for me to pull the trigger.

In the end of the day you can't listen to a track and hear if it is a 32-bit or 64-bit synth. Good sound is always good sound regardless of the technology behind it

[Pyrotek45]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Are you stupid?

[kmonkey]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Are you stupid?

I think he is! Because there is effectively and literally not a single bit of difference between sound of a synth in 32 vs 64 bit. So yes he practically pissed on himself by disregarding tool because 32 is written on it. not 64.

Muahaha

[AnX]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

Never bought it, so your comparison is moot.

Spoiled for choice, yes, and i choose not to buy software that is 32bit only. Maybe up your game and at the very least double your customer base.

[recursive one]

For those curious what Viper will sound like, I found this clip earlier in the thread, This is not an A/B comparison but people who are actually familiar with Virus will probably recognize some important traits of its character here.

http://www.adamszabo.com/internet/viper_preset_fun.mp3

[Pyrotek45]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

Never bought it, so your comparison is moot.

Spoiled for choice, yes, and i choose not to buy software that is 32bit only. Maybe up your game and at the very least double your customer base.

Go make a synth yourself since you think you could do a better job.

[AnX]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

Never bought it, so your comparison is moot.

Spoiled for choice, yes, and i choose not to buy software that is 32bit only. Maybe up your game and at the very least double your customer base.

Go make a synth yourself since you think you could do a better job.

Point to where i said that please.

[Pyrotek45]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

Never bought it, so your comparison is moot.

Spoiled for choice, yes, and i choose not to buy software that is 32bit only. Maybe up your game and at the very least double your customer base.

Go make a synth yourself since you think you could do a better job.

Point to where i said that please.

So you can't do it huh, thats what I thought, you act like Adam owes you a 64bit version.If you don't like that, don't get it. Pretty simple. But don't go around telling people to "up their game" unless you can do a better job. To be quite frank, his point is not moot, considering sylenth is one of the most used and one of the most popular vsti synths , way before it ever became 64bit.

[bftucker]

89€ for a 32bit synth?

No thanks.

Sylenth1 was only 32bit when it came out and it was 139€ (still is), and the rest is history.
Viper can do tons more than Sylenth1 and its "only" 89€. Man people are spoiled these days...

Please don't let the criticism dull your enthusiasm for what you have created. Some say that the customer is always right. You don't want people who say that to be your customers! They can be very annoying.