This generally only happens when I'm right and the rest of KVR doesn't like this pesky thing called evidence.Frantz wrote:Did someone say parties and girls?
Oh wait, it's just another thread with ghettosynth arguing with everyone.
I mean, WTF else would "Electronic Dance Music" mean in the 90s? I'm just gobsmacked that anyone would argue that it ever meant anything else. It's pretty clear that a new generation just co-opted the acronym to describe what they were hearing at parties and it stuck.
It's also absurd to argue about the quality of the references. They clearly show that it was widely used by many communities throughout the 90s and well into the early 2000s as an umbrella term or super-genre.
Seriously, if you disagree, what do you think it meant in in the 90s and through the 2000s and where do you think that EDM the genre came from? Just because you didn't hear the term being used doesn't mean that it wasn't widely used.
Here's a discussion over at MixMag, which, of course is using it in a contemporary way, and the first few comments are from people talking about how it was widely used WORLDWIDE as I describe it in the 90s.
http://mixmag.net/read/eight-reasons-ed ... s-not-blog
Of course there is no shortage of people who disagree, but I've posted the evidence right here, so they're wrong.
LA Weekly talking about the best EDM tracks of the 90s
http://www.laweekly.com/music/the-20-be ... ry-6251507
They point out that the use of EDM today is "controversial", of course, how could that be, if it always meant the shit 2012 genre? The answer of course, is that it DID NOT!
Electronic dance music, or EDM as it's somewhat controversially called these days, has existed in one form or another since the advent of the first drum machine.
Here's Rolling Stone magazine using the acronym appropriately to describe the greatest EDM albums of all time, Kraftwerk included. This article was from 2012 before the misuse of the term blew up as the new kiddy rave genre.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists ... 6-19691231
Here's an article that points out that the term was used in corporate culture to classify music as early as 1985. Also note, as I explained earlier, it seemed to follow the use of "electronica" as an umbrella term. People didn't like that because "electronica" encompassed so much more than just dance music.
The article goes on to say that the use of it as an umbrella term is problematic, but, it misses the point that those who use it that way refer to what is called EDM today, as "main room house", or just shit for short.Like electronica before it, the term EDM does not have a clear etymology. What is known is that it was in use as early as 1985, as a corporate term used to envelope the disparate sounds into one easy-to-market department. EDM largely serves the same purposes today. Perhaps that’s why everyone seems to dislike the term, even those who make the music.
https://medium.com/cuepoint/etymology-o ... e3aa873369
Another article on Medium referring to MixMags "The Great EDM Debate"
https://medium.com/@shilpasshah/analysi ... 4ffd0e87b8The global phenomenon that has taken the world by storm, and growing exponentially has been popularly categorized as “EDM Culture” — which has many traditionalists, older generation clubbers and artists alike irked. The acronym, used to generalize the dance music culture is also widely used as a blanket term and brings the different styles of dance music under one roof, especially to non-listeners of the genre.
This is the stupidest f**king discussion ever. There are hundreds of other articles and links that clearly support that the term EDM has been co-opted and was widely used in the 90s and through 2012 as a blanket term. That's just a fact!
Seeing you reference punk as masculine is interesting. My first girlfriend (of months of relationship time) used to drag me around to local punk shows. Her friend circle was a bunch of verbally abusive jerks (focused around one guy) prior to me. She once commented how novel it was that my friend and I actually liked each other.
Talking about other states of consciousness, meditaion and WTF...