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EJo · Post by **EJo** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:09 pm

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bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:55 pm

EJo wrote:Hey guys. I wondered, what's your thoughts when it comes to vocals, about the non-singíng-sounds between the notes... like breathing. Does it belong in a mix? Is it a cool musical effect? Or is it just noise and should be taken out? Do you guys know any examples where breating has been used for a good effect.. or for a BAD effect??

have you never heard 'girl' by the beatles?
have you never listened to bjork?
I think breathing sounds work.
lip smacking noises generally are noise (thanks ixox)

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:07 am

bluedad wrote:have you never listened to bjork?

No one incorperates it as well as bjork.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:15 am

All depends on the singer.
In case it's a good one, he/she will breath just at the right moments, making things just sound natural, or (in some cases) even adding some extra (wanted!) tension.

Toonyfish · Post by **Toonyfish** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:33 am

I once heard a story of a popular singer who made an engineer put the breaths back in the reel after he made the descision to cut them out. This was during tape times. No undo on the reels. Not sure if it was a true story.

Toonyfish

seamoss · Post by **seamoss** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:38 am

have you never listened to bjork?

you got to love the way she breathes

music to my ears

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:05 pm

bluedad wrote: lip smacking noises generally are noise (thanks ixox)

lip smackin' not-good? :p

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:08 pm

xoxos wrote:
bluedad wrote: lip smacking noises generally are noise (thanks ixox)
lip smackin' not-good? :p

well..some might be..just depends I reckon. I tend to do it too much and have to go in and edit.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:09 pm

Toonyfish wrote:I once heard a story of a popular singer who made an engineer put the breaths back in the reel after he made the descision to cut them out. This was during tape times. No undo on the reels. Not sure if it was a true story.

Toonyfish

prolly sounded unnatural without the breaths.

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:09 pm

seamoss wrote:
have you never listened to bjork?

you got to love the way she breathes

music to my ears

(takes deep breath).......*sigh*

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:10 pm

i tend to take some breaths out. all depends how it sits in the mix and how the emotion or "feel" of the song is. tedious as hell though.

lates

t-willy

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:14 pm

Subtle nuances make music sound 'real'. The finger slide noise on a guitar, the little breath noises and lip movements, the way a drum stick heads a drum head, etc. There's a point where it might get a bit 'excessive', but I'd leave 'em in.

Devon

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:18 pm

I always leave em in cos I've got such great lungs I only have to breathe once at the start of the song

Sounds more natural with the breathing left in to me too. If they're too obtrusive then you've either got shite mic technique or too much compression, or both. Hello Remco.

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:42 pm

I leave them in, those that get past the gate on my vocal channel, anyway. Keeps the sibilant clutter to a minimum but doesn't make me sound like some kind of Mr. Roboto (lol).

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:01 pm

bluedad wrote: have you never heard 'girl' by the beatles?

this is one good example.

Mariah Carey on the other hand, is pathetic.

k

How about breathing?