RAPID Synthesizer | Rapid 1.8.0 released | Free "SP - Granular Elements"

[GMusic]

I can't even install this. It gave me an error saying that my drive was invalid (it was pointing to a letter drive which is typically my USB flash drive, what the...). I put in my USB drive so that the error would go away and now it just exits the installer when I'm browsing for the folder to install Rapid into.

I don't understand why some devs make installations so complex to the point where stupid things like drive names can cause errors, making the product useless.

Edit: ran in troubleshoot mode and it worked ok. Man, this thing is messy. Installing presets and files in sloppy locations (hidden program data folder, AND program file folder, AND Vst plugin folder). Jeez. Can I just have ONE folder with all items in it like other synths are able to handle?

[parawave]

I don't understand why some devs make installations so complex to the point where stupid things like drive names can cause errors, making the product useless. :roll:

I'm also not happy if such problems appear, but it's the recommended Windows way of doings thing.

• Application specific config to /Program Data/
• Static read only stuff to /Program Files/
• User files to /Users/[Name]/Documents

There are reasons, mostly because of user rights management stuff.

The setup uses a pre-configured Windows Installer Routine provided by Windows. If they don't allow specific drive letters, in any of their MSI versions, it can't be helped. Maybe it just was an outdated MSI version?
But if it's working now, fine, have fun ; )

[woodsdenis]

Very cool update, tx

[exmatproton]

i love the update. The import quality is awesome. Great stuff

[Mirko R.]

Just used the new importer and started a Future Bass Library. Here is my first demo.

[HSum]

Hi there. I sampled synths (multisamples & wavetables) with 96khz (the sample rate I natively work with all the time). Now I read on the website the internal sample rate of Rapid is 44.1khz. Does this mean it would simply downsample all my material when importing it? Is there a way to force it not to do?

[parawave]

Hi there. I sampled synths (multisamples & wavetables) with 96khz (the sample rate I natively work with all the time). Now I read on the website the internal sample rate of Rapid is 44.1khz. Does this mean it would simply downsample all my material when importing it? Is there a way to force it not to do?

No, unfortunately not. This would require real-time re-sampling of your imported 96kHz samples if you (or others) use it and suddenly switch to a lower rate. A immense waste of RAM and CPU. Anyhow, most Samplers and ROMpler provide their sample source material anyways at 44.1kHz.

[Sampleconstruct]

Anyhow, most Samplers and ROMpler provide their sample source material anyways at 44.1kHz.

Naah, that's a myth, 48 Khz is very common too, so is 96 Khz these days (good for bats).

[parawave]

Naah, that's a myth, 48 Khz is very common too, so is 96 Khz these days (good for bats).

It's also a myth that mixes will suddenly sound indefinitely better if one works with higher rates :)

[HSum]

No, unfortunately not. This would require real-time re-sampling of your imported 96kHz samples if you (or others) use it and suddenly switch to a lower rate. A immense waste of RAM and CPU. Anyhow, most Samplers and ROMpler provide their sample source material anyways at 44.1kHz.

Ok that's very unfortunate and a downside for me

[Mirko R.]

No, unfortunately not. This would require real-time re-sampling of your imported 96kHz samples if you (or others) use it and suddenly switch to a lower rate. A immense waste of RAM and CPU. Anyhow, most Samplers and ROMpler provide their sample source material anyways at 44.1kHz.

Ok that's very unfortunate and a downside for me

Why? Are you able to hear frequencies above 22khz? Than you're not a human. Just joking.
Seriously, if you would like to use one single sample that you record on C1 and want to play it at C5 than it would be an advantage to work with 192khz but otherwise there is no reason to use a higher quality than 44 khz. or is there an another reason why you would like to work on 192 khz?

[Sampleconstruct]

Naah, that's a myth, 48 Khz is very common too, so is 96 Khz these days (good for bats).

It's also a myth that mixes will suddenly sound indefinitely better if one works with higher rates

Well, a lot of composers and musicians (including myself) always work at 48 Khz, especially when doing soundtracks for films, videos and so forth. Many studios now record everything at 96 Khz and downsample later. All my sample libraries are released in 48 Khz so I don't understand your allergic reaction

[HSum]

Why? Are you able to hear frequencies above 22khz? Than you're not a human. Just joking.
Seriously, if you would like to use one single sample that you record on C1 and want to play it at C5 than it would be an advantage to work with 192khz but otherwise there is no reason to use a higher quality than 44 khz. or is there an another reason why you would like to work on 192 khz?

Yes, I am Batman

I just make music in some crossover genres where real recordings (like orchestras or rock) mix with synths. These real recordings were made with 96khz, so I expect every synth or fx in my plugin chain to work with this sample rate, too. That's it ^^

But more in general, not Rapid specific: in the end I think, it doesn't really matter why or why not I choose some samplerate. The plugin should take my settings (may it be the sample rate, buffersize, bitdepth or whatever) as guidline and just do its stuff with it.

[Mirko R.]

Anyhow, most Samplers and ROMpler provide their sample source material anyways at 44.1kHz.

Naah, that's a myth, 48 Khz is very common too, so is 96 Khz these days (good for bats).

and suddenly humans are able to hear frequencies above 22khz? this is a missbelife that bats which are recorded on 96 khz sound better or more exactly. if you want, we can make a little game of it. i have here a really good and clean recording-preamt and stereo mics. i will record 10 different drumsamples. 5 with 44khz and 5 with 96khz and if you guess correctly which one is 96 khz and 44khz, I will play for you "my heart will go on" on my recorder (flute),... and i promise you,... i am really bad.
if you're wrong, you have to open a new threat with the title "shame on me" and the text "I am a bad musician". xD

omg, i believe this is a really bad idea for booth of us xD xD xD

[parawave]

Well, a lot of composers and musicians (including myself) always work at 48 Khz, especially when doing soundtracks for films, videos and so forth. Many studios now record everything at 96 Khz and downsample later. All my sample libraries are released in 48 Khz so I don't understand your allergic reaction :)

Not an allergic reaction : D

I think you would understand if we had a similar discussion in one of your sample library threads and suddenly someone posts: "Oh, what, your samples are just recorded in 48 kHz? I myself (and others) only work in 192 kHz. Sorry, that's a big downside for me. I think I have to miss out on your libraries. They are not enough for my requirements." - Unknown User1234

Or let me ask this way, why don't you record in 192kHz? There's a reason right, and it's probably a one that is justified. Maybe because your library was designed that way. And that's the exact same reason here. It was designed that way.

And let us don't start a sample rate discussion now. I think KVR has seen enough of these. I personally don't care which rate others use. There is no right one. It's always a convention. For RAPID we took 44.1kHz. If I had to design a recording device, I would also probably pick the highest possible rate.

@ HSum:
By the way, not that you misunderstood that. Just because the internal samplerate is at 44kHz doesn't mean you can't use it on higher samplerate settings. You can still use the plugin on 96kHz, it's just upsampled. And the processing after generation (in fx chain) still works on a higher rate.