T2 near? Sonar 4, (SX3 movie with Tracktions piano roll)!

[lowkey]

They seemed to have sorted out few things which really, really pissed me off.

Even though there is alot to make me spend my grant money on this (when I get it) Id rather see what Jules comes up with because he's cool

A serious amount of thinking has gone into Trackton so far. The filter and rack ideas are incredebly clever.

Give him time to do his thing

[AD80]

Definitely. I'm not goin anywhere just yet .

Anybody catch the S4 video?? Very cool stuff in there. I more impressed with S4 than with Live4 so far.

Lets see what SX3 has in store. Word on the Muzys forum is that Jo is working for Steinberg now. Of course they sayd that about Ableton too.

[ModuLR]

the S4 stuff does sound pretty impressive...

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

I just watched the video and dug through the specs.. a pretty amazing piece of work! At an equally high end price, of course...

Worth the upgrade price if you own Sonar already, no doubt.

[ModuLR]

New customers.. $1k for the full blown shabang... ouch!

[jens]

Word on the Muzys forum is that Jo is working for Steinberg now.

[christianmusicmaker]

Definitely. I'm not goin anywhere just yet .

Anybody catch the S4 video?? Very cool stuff in there. I more impressed with S4 than with Live4 so far.

Lets see what SX3 has in store. Word on the Muzys forum is that Jo is working for Steinberg now. Of course they sayd that about Ableton too.

Yes the video although short gives you a good idea as to how useful the new features are.

As for SX3 there a fair few forums with these exact details for SX3

- audio warp realtime stretching...This has to be Live's audio warp alogorithim and for me explains why Live4 came out this summer...to avoid having two new products with the same warp engine coming out at the same time. Ableton must have done a deal and wanted to get Live 4 out before SX3. That may even have been part of the deal...

- pattern style arranging (This is an answer to Cakewalks Project 5)

Effectively combining the best features of Live 4 and Project 5 in one application.

I know.. I know just rumours but we will see in about a week or less. But if it is true...

Steinberg remix did use it...

Remix

[AD80]

New customers.. $1k for the full blown shabang... ouch!

Thats outrageous. It doesn include a lot of 3rd party stuff tho. Plus maybe the street price will be lower.

[daizo]

christianmusicmaker

quit promoting that anti-Jewish film you "Christian" heretic. That torture fest is in no way a call to the righteous. Yeshua was a blasphemer, an idolator, and a false prophet.

Update...

Edirol

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Open support for external encoders: surround, LAME, Ogg Vorbis, Monkey's Audio, etc.
Export video with control over quality settings and codecs

Support for any MIDI compatible hardware control surface (Edirol, Mackie, Tascam, more)

Frame-accurate SMPTE sync with auto-detection of timecode

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[AD80]

christianmusicmaker

quit promoting that anti-Jewish film you "Christian" heretic. That torture fest is in no way a call to the righteous. Yeshua was a blasphemer, an idolator, and a false prophet.

Whoa. That was unexpected. I just thought he was a christian guy who liked to make music. I didnt know there was a movie behind the name. I've never heard of it.

[rpc9943]

jeez! chill out man!

RonC

[Robert Randolph]

It's about time someone spoke up. I was getting sick of being the only one who knew of christianmusicmaker's evil intentions.

oh well. The word is out... meetings are on tuesday's at 5pm, please bring a brandy snifter full of cow's blood, 2 eye of newt and the toes of a stillborn calf.

cya then.

[pough]

christianmusicmaker

quit promoting that anti-Jewish film you "Christian" heretic. That torture fest is in no way a call to the righteous. Yeshua was a blasphemer, an idolator, and a false prophet.

Congratulations on becoming my new favourite lunatic jerkwad random dude!

[Mr. Slater's Parrot]

New customers.. $1k for the full blown shabang... ouch!

Thats outrageous. It doesn include a lot of 3rd party stuff tho. Plus maybe the street price will be lower.

Sonar 4 PE is also available to registered Cakewalk users for $349. So buy Plasma 2003, say, for $49 and you can save a big bundle regardless of street price.

[AD80]

Good advice. Thanks.

I really wanna give the demo a test run. Hopefuly they have one soon.