Thank you for your answer, very kind, as usual.
Real time would be important to me and also the possibility to choose a tonal/noise algorithm (much more useful for my sound design purposes) rather than a tonal/transient separation.
I have not tried this crossover in the Melda product yet. I definitely should and I will soon. I thought that it was still in beta. Is it present only in MXXX or also in other Melda products? And is it present also in MXXX Core?
Tonal vs Noise
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
I can see "Tonal/transient" (in the Band Editors in Multiband plug-ins and MXXX and also in MXXX's crossover module) but not Tonal/noise. I would think that that one is in MXXX Core too.jmg8 wrote: In Melda's crossover there are 2 algorithms to pick from (tonal/noise) (tonal/transient) and then lots of control over parameters that determine how the separation is processed.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Tonal\noise was my original pitch, melda has it implemented as 'spectrum' so look for that, it's in all crossovers.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy
Ok, now I understand better. I'll check soon.
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy
OK, I tried and I need help… Suppose that I have a violin sound, or a flute sound, a single note, and I want to audition only the noisy part of it (say, the scratch noise of the bow on the string, or the air sound of the flute without the tuned note), by using one of the MultiBand plugins (I have MReverb MB, MTurboReverb MB and MHarmonizer MB, at present) and the Crossover feature (with the Spectrum algorithm, I suppose). Could you please tell me, step by step, what to do? I just want to isolate and audition the "noisy" part alone, without any further processing.
I can do this in other software, but not always in realtime and, when in realtime, not always well and not always without changing my main DAW with another. Is this possible in Melda plugins?
I can do this in other software, but not always in realtime and, when in realtime, not always well and not always without changing my main DAW with another. Is this possible in Melda plugins?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
I'm not at my studio so can't screenshot this for you, but in an MB plug, right click the spectral analyser up top to open the crossover selector, select 2 band (or however many), then select 'spectrum' as the mode or type or whatever it's called. You'll see the spectral analyser split in two, there are three buttons on each band... click 'S' to solo that band, 'M' to mute and the turned arrow to bypass. So, solo one of the bands and bypass it too, that way you can hear just what that band sounds like... then adjust the various crossover options and band position to hone in on the type of crossover you want.
There is an older tutorial video on the crossovers here... but note it is slightly older so does not have the newer crossover types such as 'spectrum'... but the general functionality is the same.
There is an older tutorial video on the crossovers here... but note it is slightly older so does not have the newer crossover types such as 'spectrum'... but the general functionality is the same.
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 18 Aug, 2006 from Italy
Thank you very much. I was missing the step regarding the bypass button. Now everything is working: this Crossover feature is a very useful tool! It works very well in most cases. Different from Trax or Pitch Tech (see earlier in this thread), but at least at the same very good quality level (and, in my opinion, achieving a much better separation than the Sonible product, of which I tried the demo today). Thank you, Melda!
Just a last suggestion which might be useful to somebody: with some percussive tuned sounds (e.g. plucked strings) I have achieved a very good noise/tonal separation by chaining two Melda MB plug-ins in a row, the first with the Tonal/Transient Crossover algorithm and the second with the Spectrum algorithm.
Just a last suggestion which might be useful to somebody: with some percussive tuned sounds (e.g. plucked strings) I have achieved a very good noise/tonal separation by chaining two Melda MB plug-ins in a row, the first with the Tonal/Transient Crossover algorithm and the second with the Spectrum algorithm.