Name me the people in the music industry who actually cared for it and made a changed in it.

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Daags wrote:So take your NO and ram it up your poopchute :)
Seems you are teeny-weeny bit jealous that you never have been in a position to burn a million quid :wink:

I am in a position to burn about two hundred thousand quid, but I aint gonna do it :borg:

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Kool Herc
Grandmaster Flash
Arthur Baker
Jesse Saunders
Larry Levan
Jellybean
Todd Terry
Trevor Horn
Tim Westwood

The list is endless...across all genres - usually it's those there at the beggining of a movement/scene when it's in it's underground infancy.

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@Numanoid

DO IT! DO IT!!

If you can then shoot blanks into a music awards crowd before leaving a dead sheep at the afterparty, the KLF might give you a call...

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dark water wrote:If you can then shoot blanks into a music awards crowd before leaving a dead sheep at the afterparty
Now that on the other hand, was a good performance :wink:

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dark water wrote: I suspect (one of) the main reasons involved narcotics rather than some arty symbolic bollocks.
the only narcotic that they were mainlining was their own hubris. they were injecting their own pure, concentrated hubris into the largest vein in their cock and spewing inanities into the cultural bucket for years ... and generally getting praised for it by the intelligentsia. Then they overdosed, and rather than administer a shot of adrenaline straight to the heart ... the intelligentsia kicked their brains in while they writhed & wretched on the ground. And rightly so.

The end.

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I heard they never burn't a million quid btw the KLF, they did burn money - but less, I think I remember it was about 1/10 of it, 100K tops...This info came out after the showing on TV back then.

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I heard they bummed each other afterwards.

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breakmixer wrote:100K tops...
Nevertheless, they could have bought 200 Amiga's or Atari ST's for that money and handed out to schools around the country instead, to inspire the young 'uns to continue their Kopyright Liberation Front mission

Money has no value in the sense that there is an official printer somewhere that just will print up more when needed, whether somebody burns it, flushes it down the toilet, or eats it.

The key is to put it to good use.

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What really would be magical is if they had 1 million quid in pure gold and turned that into lead.

Reverse Alchemists, that would be a neat circus trick 8)

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Numanoid wrote:
breakmixer wrote:100K tops...
Nevertheless, they could have bought 200 Amiga's or Atari ST's for that money and handed out to schools around the country instead, to inspire the young 'uns to continue their Kopyright Liberation Front mission

Money has no value in the sense that there is an official printer somewhere that just will print up more when needed, whether somebody burns it, flushes it down the toilet, or eats it.

The key is to put it to good use.
Don't think I was impressed by their antics or whatever it was, I wasn't - but I did see the showing on TV, it was years ago...It should of been "Watch the KLF give money to charity", no-one would of flippin' watched that though...I watched it out of disbelief...

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breakmixer wrote:"Watch the KLF give money to charity", no-one would of flippin' watched that though
Yeah, good point :(

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Numanoid wrote:
breakmixer wrote:"Watch the KLF give money to charity", no-one would of flippin' watched that though
Yeah, good point :(
This song should suffice...

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breakmixer wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
breakmixer wrote:"Watch the KLF give money to charity", no-one would of flippin' watched that though
Yeah, good point :(
This song should suffice...
Good choice, I up the ante with this, as neither will I let a star set upon me

Searching for an enemy, that is the main part of the game aint it :borg:


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Numanoid wrote:
breakmixer wrote:100K tops...
Nevertheless, they could have bought 200 Amiga's or Atari ST's for that money and handed out to schools around the country instead, to inspire the young 'uns to continue their Kopyright Liberation Front mission.
I so agree with this. Disposing of a resource that could've been put to better use is disgusting. The "lets destroy expensive shit" YouTube videos piss me off as well.
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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Daags wrote:PS: don't whinge to me about multi-millionaire cry babys like trent reznor, and radiohead, who concocted these short lived and ultra phoney 'donate what you like' promotions.
Sounds like you're the one whinging. Are you one of those people who hates artists who have the fortune to strike it rich?

What's phony about the "donate what you like" promotions? Yes, it was for a limited time, because most downloaders weren't giving any financial support back to the artists. Is that fair compensation? Isn't music worth anything? It's likely that Radiohead saw the same numbers Trent Reznor saw (which he shared with the world so that people could understand some of his future business choices, rather than keeping those numbers private).

I don't know about what else Radiohead did, but in Reznor's case it's not just the one Saul Williams album he worked on that was given away essentially for free; there's the following:

• Reznor also released one of his own albums totally free ("The Slip") as a thank you to fans. This release included the multitracks for all songs, freely downloadable off the internet (for fan remixing, or to just study the songs' construction, which is interesting and useful for budding musicians).

• He released the instrumental NIN double CD album "Ghosts" under the Creative Commons license and included the multitrack stems of all songs on the DVD found in the deluxe set (many of which became freely available later online).

• He released all the multitrack content for the album "Year Zero" for free download off the internet.

• Reznor also released the multitracks from three songs from NIN "With Teeth", two songs from Saul Williams' "Niggy Tardust" album, as well as multitracks from seven songs from both How to Destroy Angels albums.

• This is all aside from promotional remix contests that offered still other NIN and Trent/Atticus soundtrack content not mentioned above.

• NIN.com hosted all this multitrack content, and hosted fan remix uploads, for free, for anyone who registered on the site. They did so for the better part of a decade.

• Don't forget him blasting his record company for gouging Australian customers (maybe you missed that above in my original posting?). Literally going against his publisher and telling Australian fans to steal the music instead of paying the inflated prices.

Short lived and phony? Whinging? What exactly do you want from the guy? Do you believe all music from lucky millionaire musicians should just be free forever? This is still their career, not a hobby. While I think they should pay more taxes than paupers like myself, they certainly should continue to be paid for their work. It's not just work in Reznor's case; he's passionate about music as an experience and cares about albums as a whole, rather than a delivery mechanism for a couple radio hits and filler that record industry businesses tend to shove out the door. What's wrong with recognizing the efforts of people like him at treating their customers better than the shitty record industry usually does?
- dysamoria.com
my music @ SoundCloud

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