64 and 32-bit hosts forever?

[No_Use]

Hopefully 32 bit will be gone very soon. I write software and a poll of all my users showed not a single one has a 32 bit os any more so I have just today ditched 32 bit - makes life much easier

If you write standalone apps ok, different thing with DAWs imo.
I for example also have a 64 bit OS but use a 32 bit DAW because I still use lots of 32 bit plugins.

[Tappistry]

Why does MS continue to sell 32-bit versions of Windows operating systems, even of W10?

Because MS is known for consistently making good decisions. /s

[AnX]

Because Microsoft has excellent legacy support and some places are stuck with 32-bit processors and apps for whatever reason.

Lots of industry still has ancient hardware. In fact, COM ports are still desirable in mission critical systems.

The NHS still uses WinXP

[khanyz]

I have an iPhone 4 which is stuck on iOS9 and can still download the 32-bit apps. I’m going to download them all to my iTunes Desktop though, as a backup.

iPhone 4 doesn't support ios 9. You must mean ios 7.

And apparently ios isn't being autocorrected by ios on this forum. Nice. Great job Apple. Safari text editing is a disaster and autocorrect is often half-assed.

No I mean a 4S running iOS 9.3.5.

[khanyz]

Because Microsoft has excellent legacy support and some places are stuck with 32-bit processors and apps for whatever reason.

Lots of industry still has ancient hardware. In fact, COM ports are still desirable in mission critical systems.

There’s nothing quite like a simple dedicated serial connection for reliability and compatibility. I still get nostalgic for my RTU coding days. I fill the void with GPS development

[fluffy_little_something]

For all those computers that have less than 4 gig of RAM. They want people with older computers to use their newest OS too. It's Microsoft, not Apple!

What if I used W10 64-bit, but a 32-bit DAW + plugins? Would that lead to any limitations regarding memory and what not? Or would it be exactly the same as if I used 64-bit DAW + plugins?

[T-CM11]

For all those computers that have less than 4 gig of RAM. They want people with older computers to use their newest OS too. It's Microsoft, not Apple!

What if I used W10 64-bit, but a 32-bit DAW + plugins? Would that lead to any limitations regarding memory and what not? Or would it be exactly the same as if I used 64-bit DAW + plugins?

32 bit has a 2 GB memory limitation (per DAW & per plugin).

[fluffy_little_something]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

[chk071]

Why does MS continue to sell 32-bit versions of Windows operating systems, even of W10?

Because MS is known for consistently making good decisions. /s

Well... apart from the low spec devices i mentioned, the market share of 32-bit Windows 10 seems to be tiny. It's not super representative, at least outside gamer circles, but, the Steam hardware survey stats show that above 50 % of Steam users use Windows 10 64-bit, while a mere 0,63 % use Windows 10 32-bit... on a desktop computer, there's not much of a point, when you can run 32-bit applications on your 64-bit Windows anyway. ANY processor will be able to run 64-bit these days, even phone and tablet processors.

[T-CM11]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

Well, I reckon that it's not ideal when playing big Kontakt liblaries.

[chk071]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

What's the point in holding on to 32-bit, if you don't have any ancient plugins, which are only available in 32-bit? Nostalgia?

[T-CM11]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

What's the point in holding on to 32-bit, if you don't have any ancient plugins, which are only available in 32-bit? Nostalgia?

I still love SQ8L! (no room for the real deal )

[fluffy_little_something]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

What's the point in holding on to 32-bit, if you don't have any ancient plugins, which are only available in 32-bit? Nostalgia?

That's exactly the point, all plugins seem to be available in 32, and many also in 64, but not the other way round, at least none of mine.
I still have a few great 32-bit only plugins I miss, for instance the Simmons drum plugin by Aly James.
So I am indeed thinking of switching to the 32-bit version of Mulab...

[chk071]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

What's the point in holding on to 32-bit, if you don't have any ancient plugins, which are only available in 32-bit? Nostalgia?

I still love SQ8L! (no room for the real deal )

That's fair enough. That's why i wrote "if you don't have any ancient plugins". The only thing i'd install a 32-bit version of my DAW (fortunately, many DAW's allow to install 32-bit and 64-bit versions side by side) for these days is Terratec Komplexer. That thing almost sounds too good to catch dust... Almost. Having to install 32-bit versions of my other plugins then would be rather a pain...

All in all, my attitude is that, if developers aren't developing 64-bit versions of their plugins, it is not worth buying them. E.g. i won't buy Adam Szabo's Viper, because, frankly, i won't install a 32-bit DAW just to run that. IMO, it's a mistake to use frameworks, which only put out 32-bit Windows only VST's in 2017. I mean, seriously. Fatal mistake. I can understand why he did it, but, he will get himself rid of a lot of potential customers. Especially as people waited so long for a Virus emulation... and then 2 are developed, Viper and Cell, and they're both 32-bit Windows only VST... lol...

[fluffy_little_something]

And what would that mean at the end of the day? Would the DAW be slower?
My entire computer only uses 2.1 GB of RAM when the DAW is on and a project playing.

Well, I reckon that it's not ideal when playing big Kontakt liblaries.

Oh no, I don't use any Kontakt stuff.