Any way around this midi routing issue?

[droolmaster0]

It appears that Waveform will not let you choose the same external midi device as incoming midi for multiple tracks. I'm a beginner with Waveform, but I suspect that one could get around this using plugins in a Rack....but I could not figure out a way to send midi from the same device to both a virtual synth and a hardware synth. When I add the midi input to the second track, it is removed as the input from the first.

[Peter Widdicombe]

You create a "virtual input" device associated with the other MIDI device, is one way of doing it without getting into racks.

Get into Settings; MIDI devices.
Create a virtual device. Call it DoubleMidi or whatever. click on the name to highlight it.
At the bottom of the screen you have a whole lot of properties for it. Select MIDI inputs, and pick the (probably only) other MIDI device.

You can now select that as a second midi device that will get all the input from the first one, which behaves "normally" but gets doubled to that new virtual. Like a Y jack.

I've never tried using a rack to do that, but it's probably possible there - to have the MIDI pass through, but also include a .VST device IN the rack itself... ?

[droolmaster0]

Cool. I will try that.

[droolmaster0]

and that seems to work perfectly. Thanks!!! I don't know how long it would have taken me to stumble on that solution.

[Peter Widdicombe]

Somebody else had helped me here with the same issue about a year ago... Nice to have a helpful community.

[droolmaster0]

well, i really LIKE Waveform, and am enjoying working in it. I do find the documentation somewhat deficient in that I think that it's a rare person who reads it all the way through (?) so the challenge becomes trying to find your answers to questions in the manual. I've had difficulty finding the answers to simple questions - like it took me the longest time just to find out how to send midi to external hardware, or even how to save an edit. But then it's also possible that my brain is the thing that is deficient. But then again, as you say, this seems like a very helpful community here.

[Peter Widdicombe]

I had used cakewalk, cakewalk pro and macaw in the past; and liked Tracktion. I've since gone back and tried Macaw as a free alternative for a friend who wanted to dabble with recording (pre Tracktion 5 being free), and found going back to be frustrating...

[tonedef71]

This MIDI routing scenario has confused many a user so often that I am surprised that the developers have not just gone ahead and expanded the "use MIDI track output as MIDI input" feature of the DAW to allow the same MIDI track output of one track to be the MIDI input to many other MIDI tracks, instead of to just a single other MIDI track.

Here a couple of other threads similar to this one:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=480506
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=486426

[Peter Widdicombe]

I think the problem to this, is that the default output of a track, in most cases, is actually audio, so that can't be used to control another MIDI track.

Your case might be different, though, in that the output of your track IS actually MIDI that you're feeding to an external MIDI synth, and would like it reapplied internally to another MIDI track...

[zzz00m]

I found an easy way to do this is to just create a plugin rack that routes midi in to midi out (no audio), and save it as "MIDI Thru".

Insert "MIDI Thru" on the first track that you want to control with your external device, then just ctrl-drag copy it to all of the tracks you wish to stack with that controller.

Works great!