NEW CUBASE SX 3 SIMPLY MINDBLOWING !!!!

[TotcProductions]

Not an attitude per se, but I do get rattled when people think that the world owes them something.

Simple philosophy, if ya don't like it, don't buy it. Buy something else!

Although I suspect you could substitute Cubase for Logic or FL or Reason or Ableton or ......

I've been reading these forums for a long time just never registered to post before, but I'm ok about it if you feel the need to label me.

T.

No problem here....just welcoming you aboard.
Don't worry, I got fuckin gangraped on my first post.

Peace!

[Improv]

Its not that long since we had to fork out for an upgrade to sx2, this bastard should be free!

Cubase SX 2 was announced in September 2003. A year ago! Get over it. No one forces you to upgrade. If you bought after that, it was your decision.

[maoinhibitor]

Mindblowing? Mostly looks like features that have been in other hosts for years (Acid, Sonar, etc.)

The only thing I find "Mindblowing" about that update is that they are calling it a new version without many new features

[kuniklo]

Mindblowing? Mostly looks like features that have been in other hosts for years (Acid, Sonar, etc.)

The only thing I find "Mindblowing" about that update is that they are calling it a new version without many new features

Really? The inline midi editing, pattern-based composition, and Live-style clip warping don't seem interesting to you? If Steinberg pulls all this off it's going to be a pretty big deal, I think. I'm not familiar at all with Acid these days but Sonar doesn't have any of this. They seems to have borrowed some of the best tricks of Tracktion and Live in this release.

[Dezacrator]

Mindblowing? Mostly looks like features that have been in other hosts for years (Acid, Sonar, etc.)

The only thing I find "Mindblowing" about that update is that they are calling it a new version without many new features

I agree, not a mindblowing update. I am glad though both Sonar and SX3 are startng to get that competitive edge. We all will win in the end.

[bmanic]

Sometimes it's the little things that make it mindblowing and for me it's the 'relative snap' feature that makes cubase sx finally a real alternative.

Bluedad: I don't know if anybody explained relative snap to you yet so I'll do it here.

Let's say you record a midi part and hit the first few notes just before Bar 1 because you like the feel of the early up beat. Now, say you want to move that clip exactly 4 bars forward. You put snap to bar and move the clip. Voila.. NOT! In old SX it snaps the clip start to bar 4 without taking the relative position of the early upbeat into consideration which totally ruins the rythm. In most other sequencers the clip would simply have moved 4 bars and kept it's relative start position. This is what relative snap means and is finally an option in cubase.

Cheers!
bManic

[ericj23]

so delay compensation for external fx is not revolutionary ? - and how about in channel midi editing - sounds good to me

but i was so wanting vst 3 with sidechains - think i might skip a year

[RoyNoahJones]

with all the new features, i don't see any serious competitor with ALL the SX3 features AND MORE... oh yeah there's one 'NUENDO' for the rest it sounds like jealousy. u don't like SX, u don't buy it, u don't like the new features, u don't upgrade... u don't like cubase, u post in the forum of your heaven app.

u want to complain for the right things, do it for the best of human kind on this planet. and let people enjoy the things they like.

have fun

Can't wait to get sx3.

[bluedad]

Bluedad: I don't know if anybody explained relative snap to you yet so I'll do it here.

Cheers!
bManic

thanks bManic, I see now how that could be desireable.

[Lunch Money]

so delay compensation for external fx is not revolutionary ?

Possibly the only "mindblowing" part of the entire upgrade.

- and how about in channel midi editing - sounds good to me

It's Tracktion's piano roll... which, funnily enough, is one of the things Tracktion users would like to see upgraded (not changed, just more features). If you didn't know you were looking at Cubase promo material, you'd say, "Whoah, Tracktion got a new skin."

[edit: apparently Pro Tools and Digital Performer have always had this, as well. Did not know that!]

Freeze... has been properly implemented by other hosts for aeons.


As for the guy getting jumped on when he suggested that this should be a free upgrade... I agree. True, nobody "forces" you to upgrade, so it's not like they're stealing your money. But it's called customer service and loyalty. You reward your customers by giving them proper udpates (instead of a series of bugfixes. SX 1 wasn't even stable until 1.06 according the Cubase users I know, and that was the final SX 1 upgrade). I agree that 2.2 was a proper upgrade, so kudos to Steinberg for that one. However, a good half of the "new" features in SX3 are either re-implemented, thieved (which is fine, it's how we all benefit), or simply brought to a working level instead of a piece of crap (eg. Freeze).

So should it be a free upgrade? Possibly not, considering the external fx and new MIDI editing approach... but the bugfixes that are being marketed as new features should damn well be a free upgrade.

Greg

[cptgone]

i don't think i'm gonna buy the upgrade... at first glance all i really want is the audio warp thingie...

didn't upgrade Halion 2 to 3 either, as i just got Komplete2

[HHaynes]

with all the new features, i don't see any serious competitor with ALL the SX3 features AND MORE... oh yeah there's one 'NUENDO' for the rest it sounds like jealousy.

That's the whole thing - the GESTALT of features is what will make SX3 a killer app. Add to that the fact that it's 64-bit native compatible, and you're in TOTALLY new territory.

Anyone whose bashing SX3 is simply complaining about sour grapes.

[cold c]

64-bit native compatible

You should work for Steinberg marketing.

[Lunch Money]

Sour grapes? More like, "able to think critically and cut through the BS."

Did anybody else notice how many menus you have to get through to DO anything? The guy explaining the video was like, "and then you just click 'blah'" but he had to go through 3 levels of menu to get to 'blah'. Also, each function took a number of clicks to get it going, even if it was available on the main edit page and not through menus.

I'll admit, the Warp Audio will be useful. And it's not like anybody's saying it's not a great app. I think we're saying that "simply mindblowing" is a hyperbole of almost comic proportions. It's always been a good app... now it's finally shaping up to be a "rather good" app. It's hardly the stuff of dreams, though.

Greg

[Mr.Babylon]

Well I love all the new features and will without a doubt upgrade. But....there's always a but ...What is kind of weird to me as they still haven't upgraded those FX. I mean they are tired and old (most of them have been hanging around since VST days). IMO Cubase blows every other DAW out of the water except in this one area (and it's a rather important area). Most of the other DAW's blow Cubase away in regards to the included plugs. Now I will say I have faith in Steinberg to do something about this, but oh well maybe next time. And any of you guys that have been with them a while (I've owned it about ten years) surly have noticed this, they usually make the upgrades mostly about workflow enhancements and general improvements but tend to give away a lot of goodies in the updates in between new releases. (the 3 new plugs that were in 2.2 were all lots of fun, and I love those GUI's) God bless em! So maybe sooner rather than later. Anyway still love it!