Why EQ a sound doesn't change timbre?

[jancivil]

I hear the kick DRUM vis a vis the room and/or ambient mics in the BFD3. Once it's in the music, in the mix I don't pay attention to it in isolation again. So for me it's not much a point of comparison.

In this case, may I ask you why spending time to mix/reverb on BFD3 your kicks if you don't pay attention of this effect during listening? What's the differences between raw stuff and mixed stuff if you ignore the color added by the mixing so?

May I ask you what's so difficult about reading a statement before you decide what was said to you?

I hear the kick DRUM vis a vis the room and/or ambient mics in the BFD3. Once it's in the music, in the mix I don't pay attention to it in isolation again.

I'm done.
Absolute waste of my time now. Shoulda known .

[ghettosynth]

[ghettosynth]

[Nowhk]

May I ask you what's so difficult about reading a statement before you decide what was said to you?

I think I've misunderstood you

English is not my first language, as I said. I still can't get a different meaning from your statement (and I've tried to translate it 10-15 times).

No matter
Many thanks for your time too!

[Atza]

That's what I wondered long time ago. Why can't guitar sound be changed to violin just by changing EQ ?
Because EQ is not fine enough to do such things. It should be done on molecular or DNA level so to speak and EQ is just cosmetics

[Derozer]

We all understand that speakers are different, we also understand that playback systems have tone controls. None of this matters in any significant sense.

new on this community... found this thread casually browsing internet.

clearly op doesn't fit within the neuroscience circle of enthusiastics, but I can recognize his/her maze... common dubts.

but please don't say - none of this matters - thats just disrespectful and hasty.

presentation layer (a.k.a. medium for the op) is at the basics of perception... and YES... it matters a lot in these terms... as it does mood, motivation and expectation.

everything is constantly shaped by circumstances - our perception of sound is a constant flux.

any medium is a fundamental element in performance arts... never heard about Helicopter String Quartet of Karlheinz Stockhausen?

main point of the piece is changing the medium... the air itself... because when it's higher the air is thinner and it conducts differently.

[ghettosynth]

[fmr]

Aren't you filled up yet, with so much pop-corn?

[dark water]

Hi Ghettosynth.
Please can you explain all the processes of thought for red and white stripes on popcorn boxes? I sometimes don't understand...

[ghettosynth]

Aren't you filled up yet, with so much pop-corn?

That's for everyone else, especially nowhk's mom.

[yellowmix]

new on this community... found this thread casually browsing internet.

Please don't "necro" threads.

but please don't say - none of this matters - thats just disrespectful and hasty.

Before you fall into the trap, whatever you're reading in this post, is not what's going on. Forget the "EQ", forget "frequency", forget air density, forget science. OP sent me PMs when I disengaged from the thread a few months ago and I mistakenly provided many scientific resources, but OP is navigating this in a philosophical manner.

OP's fundamental concern is that what other people hear is out of anyone's control. In the context of music, there's a disconnect between what the creator makes and what an audience member perceives it as.

OP thinks this is a big deal that everyone should be talking about it and will up-end everything we know about music. When it is simply a fact of human existence. Sure, there are some interesting ideas you can explore, like if AI could perceive music exactly how the creator intended, or if it matters that Bach's compositions are played on completely different instruments and in different tunings than he intended. But OP doesn't care about that; it's the very nature of what we consider "music" if people perceive it uniquely differently, and why isn't everyone concerned about it like they are?

[angelonyc]

The beauty of some natural instruments is the amount of harmonics the come in/change volume/drop out over time.. An instrument becomes unqique, because of it's harmonics used, and the relative volume of each of them.

EQ'ing changes that to some degree, and can make an instrument 'fit' better in the mix. However you are only dulling a certain part of the sound.. An EQ is going to target a region, and chances are, there are several harmonics in that range. This can work at times. Other times, it might be better, to choose a different instrument, or patch.

When I compose music. I leave the virtual instruments intact (don't turn them into audio until piece is complete). If my computer starts 'bogging down'. I turn the instrument into audio, but save patches, channel strips etc. So that I can go back to original sound easily.

On a more elementary level, or different point of view. Consider a piece of music as varying amounts of harmonics transitioning in/out.
Sometimes beginning synth players, love sawtooth, they are so rich. but if the track is loud, it obliterates, delicate harmonic instruments.

As your piece becomes more complex. You may find, changing a patch or two, 'makes room' for the other instruments to shine'.
You may also consider making some parts simpler, less notes, sticking more to primary consonant notes. This again creates space for the other instruments to shine.