Sonic Academy new synth!

[recursive one]

Hi Bluffmunkey. How do you think, can ANA2 replace Virus? I mean in terms of sound quality /character/you know what I mean, not in terms of features and shit.

[Synthman2000]

I think Sylenth1 sounds good, it can be thin, granted but can also be very rich and tweakable, you can push it where you want to normally on the strictly VA side. It does not sound like the output is going through a real time encoder for 96 kbps MP3 which is always a good start.

[tehlord]

Nice. I honestly don't know what it sounds like. I'm hearing some Serum, some Tone 2 Icarus specifically and, believe it or not, some Omnisphere. Of course that could simply be because of whatever samples you're using, if any. But some of those soundscapes remind me of the stuff I can get out of Omnisphere.

Definitely an odd mix of textures to this synth. Not as cold as Serum. Not warm like a Diva or a Legend, obviously. Brighter than Nave. Has some dirt to it that I'm not used to finding in too many synths, especially the low end.

Absolutely doesn't sound exactly like anything I own but has shades of a few things.

Will definitely be waiting for this one.

Oh, and IMO, blows the doors off of Sylenth1.

I would concur that there is some Omnisphere flavour in there. The sample content will of course have a big impact on 'that sound', but the large filter selection plays a part too.

Where do those cold, edgy sounds come from? Are there any wavetables?

A combination of both. The wavetables are on a par with Serum etc, but with the added benefit of samples for 'pixie dust'.

Hi Bluffmunkey. How do you think, can ANA2 replace Virus? I mean in terms of sound quality /character/you know what I mean, not in terms of features and shit.

Hmmm, tough one. In terms of features, they're pretty similar. I still don't think the Virus filter/FX combination has been replicated in any native synth (not even Spire). The differences are small now, but the Virus is still very much the sum of it's parts. The way it does unison, the way the filters sound, and most importantly the way the FX stack up. The Virus sound is SO much about those FX imo.

[wagtunes]

Because I demo'd it. I've also heard more audios of that overhyped synth than probably any other synth on the planet. Go look up Sylenth1 on on Google and see how many results you get.

I never understood the hoopla. To me, it sounds like an old synth with a fair sound engine at best.

I mean why do you think it's one of the few synths I haven't bought?

Um, because the good patches have already been made by others and you could not make any money from it

It depends on what one wants. Of course it can't make such sounds that Ana 2 obviously makes. But I still like it for making classic synth sounds from the early 80s, e.g. background pads, Moog basses, synth brass etc.

First of all, your assertion that I couldn't make any money from it because all the "good" patches have been made is absurd. The Legend, which is a simple Minimoog clone that any monkey could program sounds for is my 12th best selling library out of the 54 that I've made. So that blows your theory out of the water.

As far as making classic synth sounds from the 80s, that was fine 10 years ago when it came out. How many synths like that do we need? I've got synths that can make 80s sounds out the wazoo. I don't need one with a 10 year old synth engine that sounds worse than every other synth I own that can make classic 80s synth sounds.

In fact, the only synth I own that I can honestly say sounds worse than Sylenth1 is ANA 1. I bought it when I didn't know any better as far as what was a "good" sounding synth and what was a not so good sounding synth. I'm a lot more picky these days.

Would I have bought Sylenth1 back in 2007 had I been doing PC recording and not still working in a hardware based studio? Probably. I doubt there was much out at the time that was any good and relatively speaking, Sylenth1 was probably one of the best things out there. But it hasn't aged well, IMO. I hear it and I hear and old engine that sounds blah at best. Nothing about the synth excites me. So why would I get it?

[Spencer Maddox]

Why are we having a Sylenth1 discussion on a thread about ANA...

[wagtunes]

Why are we having a Sylenth1 discussion on a thread about ANA...

Because FLS wants to know if ANA 2 sounds like Sylenth1 because Sylenth1 is the only synth on this planet that he likes at least a little bit.

[recursive one]

Hi Bluffmunkey. How do you think, can ANA2 replace Virus? I mean in terms of sound quality /character/you know what I mean, not in terms of features and shit.

Hmmm, tough one. In terms of features, they're pretty similar. I still don't think the Virus filter/FX combination has been replicated in any native synth (not even Spire). The differences are small now, but the Virus is still very much the sum of it's parts. The way it does unison, the way the filters sound, and most importantly the way the FX stack up. The Virus sound is SO much about those FX imo.

Thanks. Well, I see. I'm now remixing my old track where all synth parts vere recorded from my Snow and I'm amazed how fat and alive it sounds, even with my amateur programming skills.

Anyway, your ANA soundscapes demo is absolutely awesome

[fluffy_little_something]

Why are we having a Sylenth1 discussion on a thread about ANA...

Because FLS wants to know if ANA 2 sounds like Sylenth1 because Sylenth1 is the only synth on this planet that he likes at least a little bit.

Not so much whether it sounds like S1 (obviously it does not), but whether it sounds as good as S1, i.e. the sound quality as such.
I'd like to hear a classic synth pad from Ana 2, you know, like an Oberheim, just two or three saws, slightly detuned, and sent through a 24db lp filter and a chorus. That says a lot about a synth's sound character.

[fluffy_little_something]

First of all, your assertion that I couldn't make any money from it because all the "good" patches have been made is absurd. The Legend, which is a simple Minimoog clone that any monkey could program sounds for is my 12th best selling library out of the 54 that I've made. So that blows your theory out of the water.

Legend is relatively new, there are not many sound sets, yet, regardless of whether or not it is a simple synth. People keep saying Sylenth1 is simple, too. Yet lots of people have made sound sets for it.

As far as making classic synth sounds from the 80s, that was fine 10 years ago when it came out. How many synths like that do we need? I've got synths that can make 80s sounds out the wazoo. I don't need one with a 10 year old synth engine that sounds worse than every other synth I own that can make classic 80s synth sounds.

I only need one, and if that means I have to replace Sylenth1 with Ana 2, fine with me

I doubt you know what you are talking about...

[wagtunes]

Why are we having a Sylenth1 discussion on a thread about ANA...

Because FLS wants to know if ANA 2 sounds like Sylenth1 because Sylenth1 is the only synth on this planet that he likes at least a little bit.

Not so much whether it sounds like S1 (obviously it does not), but whether it sounds as good as S1, i.e. the sound quality as such.
I'd like to hear a classic synth pad from Ana 2, you know, like an Oberheim, just two or three saws, slightly detuned, and sent through a 24db lp filter and a chorus. That says a lot about a synth's sound character.

All it says about a synth is whether or not it can do two slightly detuned saws through a 24db lp filter and chorus well. It says nothing about whether a synth's sound character is good or bad. Just that it can do what YOU want it to do. Not every synth is designed for that lone task in mind and instead focuses on other things. That doesn't make the synth's sound character bad. It just makes it a synth you're not interested in.

[wagtunes]

First of all, your assertion that I couldn't make any money from it because all the "good" patches have been made is absurd. The Legend, which is a simple Minimoog clone that any monkey could program sounds for is my 12th best selling library out of the 54 that I've made. So that blows your theory out of the water.

Legend is relatively new, there are not many sound sets, yet, regardless of whether or not it is a simple synth. People keep saying Sylenth1 is simple, too. Yet lots of people have made sound sets for it.

As far as making classic synth sounds from the 80s, that was fine 10 years ago when it came out. How many synths like that do we need? I've got synths that can make 80s sounds out the wazoo. I don't need one with a 10 year old synth engine that sounds worse than every other synth I own that can make classic 80s synth sounds.

I only need one, and if that means I have to replace Sylenth1 with Ana 2, fine with me

I doubt you know what you are talking about...

Oh so now we're resorting to insults. Has that where this conversation has degraded to? Don't worry, I'm not going to sink to your level. I know that ends up as a non stop nobody can win battle that I'm tired of playing with you.

[tehlord]

Hi Bluffmunkey. How do you think, can ANA2 replace Virus? I mean in terms of sound quality /character/you know what I mean, not in terms of features and shit.

Hmmm, tough one. In terms of features, they're pretty similar. I still don't think the Virus filter/FX combination has been replicated in any native synth (not even Spire). The differences are small now, but the Virus is still very much the sum of it's parts. The way it does unison, the way the filters sound, and most importantly the way the FX stack up. The Virus sound is SO much about those FX imo.

Thanks. Well, I see. I'm now remixing my old track where all synth parts vere recorded from my Snow and I'm amazed how fat and alive it sounds, even with my amateur programming skills.

Anyway, your ANA soundscapes demo is absolutely awesome

This is what I was mentioning earlier. ANA2 sounds fat and alive too, it's weird. I know that software and digital hardware should sound the same, but it usually doesn't!

Anyway, I just knocked up a quick Oberheim style pad to try and show a bit of warmth. For some reason the audio glitched a bit on video export (sounds like it's clipping). I think it's Camtasia that's doing that, because it's not in the original WAV. I uploaded the original 48/24 to Soundcloud (which has also destroyed it!!!!)....but......it can be downloaded if you want to hear the raw output from ANA2.




https://soundcloud.com/bluffmunkey/ana2 ... ad/s-rE1mB

[wagtunes]

Hi Bluffmunkey. How do you think, can ANA2 replace Virus? I mean in terms of sound quality /character/you know what I mean, not in terms of features and shit.

Hmmm, tough one. In terms of features, they're pretty similar. I still don't think the Virus filter/FX combination has been replicated in any native synth (not even Spire). The differences are small now, but the Virus is still very much the sum of it's parts. The way it does unison, the way the filters sound, and most importantly the way the FX stack up. The Virus sound is SO much about those FX imo.

Thanks. Well, I see. I'm now remixing my old track where all synth parts vere recorded from my Snow and I'm amazed how fat and alive it sounds, even with my amateur programming skills.

Anyway, your ANA soundscapes demo is absolutely awesome

This is what I was mentioning earlier. ANA2 sounds fat and alive too, it's weird. I know that software and digital hardware should sound the same, but it usually doesn't!

Anyway, I just knocked up a quick Oberheim style pad to try and show a bit of warmth. For some reason the audio glitched a bit on video export (sounds like it's clipping). I think it's Camtasia that's doing that, because it's not in the original WAV. I uploaded the original 48/24 to Soundcloud (which has also destroyed it!!!!)....but......it can be downloaded if you want to hear the raw output from ANA2.



https://soundcloud.com/bluffmunkey/ana2 ... ad/s-rE1mB

Sounds good to me.

[Caine123]

nice, still has some metallic touch to it, i dunno i have to compare it to nearly the same settings in DIVA,

[tehlord]

nice, still has some metallic touch to it, i dunno i have to compare it to nearly the same settings in DIVA,

Could be chorus