When can we stop making 32-bit plugins?

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Is it okay if developers stop making 32-bit plugins?

No I still work in 32-bit mostly
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I only use a 32-bit host some of the time, so having both is better
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Yes, I've completely moved on to 64-bit
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No I still need them, but in 2-3 years I'll have moved on
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No I still need them and I won't move on for many years
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11%
 
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Teksonik wrote: How is the 64 bit version of DUNE 2 for example any more complicated or bloated than the 32 bit version ?
64 is a bigger number! Wait, that's not it :dog:
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Teksonik wrote:
layzer wrote:i could care less. as far as i can tell, all the plugins needed to create and manipulate electronic music have already been created in 32bit. 64bit and beyond just make them more complicated and bloated.
How is the 64 bit version of DUNE 2 for example any more complicated or bloated than the 32 bit version ?

Anyway not everyone is stuck in 2002. Some of us have moved on. :wink:
moved on to what? more bloat and baggage, suit yourself , dude :roll:
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You could stop developing 32-bit and see how it turns out. If your sales are way down, then you can just start developing them again. I don't own licenses for any of your products, so it won't make any difference to me personally.
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braj wrote:
layzer wrote:i could care less. as far as i can tell, all the plugins needed to create and manipulate electronic music have already been created in 32bit. 64bit and beyond just make them more complicated and bloated.
There is a real reason 64 bit is better: RAM. Your computer can simply do more. If you want to call multi-sampled instruments bloat, well, it depends on what kind of music you make. You can argue all you want that a small door is sufficient for a house unless you want to bring a grand piano through the doorway, then it becomes impossible.
oh yeah more RAM to load bigger samples to make projects fat and bloated. no thanks man
i'll stick to 5-10mb physical modeled and VA synths and 1mb EnergyEXT2 that loads in a split second.
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In the end of the day I think it is the developers that has to drive this move towards 64-bit only. As long as 32-bit is available people will use it. At the same time it is the developers that need to handle any support issues that might follow as a consequence. I have a feeling that this move might be painful but down the road everything will be just fine.
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layzer wrote:moved on to what? more bloat and baggage, suit yourself , dude :roll:
Moved on to the future. But if you think being stuck in the past is where you belong then suit yourself dude. :roll:
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layzer wrote:
braj wrote:
layzer wrote:i could care less. as far as i can tell, all the plugins needed to create and manipulate electronic music have already been created in 32bit. 64bit and beyond just make them more complicated and bloated.
There is a real reason 64 bit is better: RAM. Your computer can simply do more. If you want to call multi-sampled instruments bloat, well, it depends on what kind of music you make. You can argue all you want that a small door is sufficient for a house unless you want to bring a grand piano through the doorway, then it becomes impossible.
oh yeah more RAM to load bigger samples to make projects fat and bloated. no thanks man
i'll stick to 5-10mb physical modeled and VA synths and 1mb EnergyEXT2 that loads in a split second.
Lol, good for you man, it doesn't sound like you are in the market to buy any new plugins anyway. And again, I said it depends on what music you make, if you are scoring to video and doing orchestration I doubt your setup would be sufficient. But if you prefer to work with a tape recorder and a kazoo, all power to you for that, best of luck.
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ATN69 wrote:I As long as 32-bit is available people will use it.
Instead of using the 64 bit version ? The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer.

Here's the bottom line....going 64 bit future proofs your system for the foreseeable future as I doubt 128 bit architecture and plugins are anywhere on the near horizon.

Like I said there are already 64 bit only plugins and I'm willing to bet that trend will only grow as time goes on.
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Teksonik wrote:
layzer wrote:moved on to what? more bloat and baggage, suit yourself , dude :roll:
Moved on to the future. But if you think being stuck in the past is where you belong then suit yourself dude. :roll:
my "stuck in the past" music production is far better than anything you will ever do in the future, pal.
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layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
layzer wrote:moved on to what? more bloat and baggage, suit yourself , dude :roll:
Moved on to the future. But if you think being stuck in the past is where you belong then suit yourself dude. :roll:
my "stuck in the past" music production is far better than anything you will ever do in the future, pal.
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Teksonik wrote:
ATN69 wrote:I As long as 32-bit is available people will use it.
Instead of using the 64 bit version ? The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer.

Here's the bottom line....going 64 bit future proofs your system for the foreseeable future as I doubt 128 bit architecture and plugins are anywhere on the near horizion.

Like I said there are already 64 bit only plugins and I'm willing to bet that trend will only grow as time goes on.
Sure, but if you think about it ..a user that had only 32-bit for years and years buy a new plugin. The new plugin have both 64-bit and 32-bit version. What do you think this user will choose?
That's why I am saying that developers has to drive the trend, and if plugins come as 64-bit only, users have no choice except to get 64-bit or not buying. Second thing is that the developer might save a little bit of time as you said before, but I bet it will cost them some time in terms of support instead, at least the first couple of years.
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Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
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layzer wrote:
Teksonik wrote:The 32 bit version is only to placate Luddites like Layzer..
call me whatever you like, scumbag. you can go FK your future self.
He used an accurate term: luddite: a person opposed to increased industrialization or new technology.

You used an insult, buddy.
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layzer wrote: my "stuck in the past" music production is far better than anything you will ever do in the future, pal.
Yea well my dick is bigger....pal. :lol:
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64bit only. I dont use freeware. I can afford quality synths.

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